http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/05/clinton-under-fire-over- f_n_95218.html
Sorry, can't do tinyurl on my office computer. ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Marek Reavis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Judy, that was a fine speech by Senator Clinton, and except for a > couple of things, very much the same sort of speech that Senator Obama > would have made to the same group. > > Of course, he wouldn't have made the reference to Rocky Balboa because > Rocky lost in 15 rounds to a charismatic black man. He wouldn't have > told the tragic story about the uninsured pregnant woman because that > story turns out to have been false, too. True, there was a young > woman, she and her baby did die, but it turns out that she was insured > and she was not refused treatment. Senator Clinton's campaign didn't > check the story to find out if it was true or not, unfortunately, and > so the story, again, is that Clinton was caught in a lie. > > Unfortunately, the meta narrative that such misstatements support is > that Senator Clinton is a habitual liar. The truth is no doubt more > prosaic -- her staff just didn't bother to verify the story she told, > and left it to the media, many of whom have no reason to like her, > to "catch" her, once again, in another "lapse". How many lapses does > it take before her leadership credentials are more questionable than > her reputation for honesty? > > And that's where I agree with your position in this campaign, but in a > backhanded sort of way; your argument is that Clinton has been so > bloodied in the past that essentially there's nothing more that the GOP > can possibly uncover about her, but that there *might* be "something" > that we don't know about Obama yet that will come out later, after he's > already been nominated to torpedo his candidacy, and then the Democrats > will go down in his sinking ship. > > That's certainly possible, of course, but so far nothing like that has > occurred except for the Reverend Wright tempest; and Obama turned that > to his advantage, giving what many people described as one of the great > speeches in American history. It didn't convince everyone, but the > subject being what it is -- racism -- it would be impossible that it > could. > > But the argument that there's nothing worse that can be used against > Clinton is entirely unfounded. Clinton is an extraordinarily > polarizing figure and everything that has ever been leveled against her > will be reprised a hundredfold should she gain the nomination. Her > nomination would galvanize and energize the currently disheartened > Republican base that can barely tolerate John McCain. Her 110- million > dollar income these last 8 years and Bill Clinton's troubled dealings > with Yucaipa will be trumpeted endlessly. Senator Clinton hasn't begun > to be pilloried and demonized and this argument, accepted without any > substantiation, but merely on faith or her say so, that she's already > been vetted is basically a pile of shit. > > Senator Clinton is a fine senator and it goes without saying that she > would be a president heads and shoulders over the carbuncle currently > in office; but she is a hopelessly flawed candidate, and I stress the > hopeless. She offers more of the same; better but only in degree, not > better in kind. > > You may be correct and Senator Obama may be less than many hope him to > be, but we may hope that the spirit that he enkindles in many, many > people's hearts -- that *we* can be better than we have been, as a > nation and as a people -- is worth hoping and working for. > > I'm encouraged by your words that should Obama claim the Democratic > nomination, you will fight for his election. I'll be right alongside > you. > > Marek > > ** > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sandiego108" <sandiego108@> > > wrote: > > <snip> > > > Hillary on the other hand seems tired and combative- not much of > > > the old fire and true principle I used to see in her. > > > > Take a look at the speech she gave a few days ago to > > the Pennsylvania AFL-CIO: > > > > http://www.hillaryclinton.com/news/speech/view/?id=6866 > > >