http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/05/clinton-under-fire-over-
f_n_95218.html

Sorry, can't do tinyurl on my office computer.

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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Marek Reavis" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Judy, that was a fine speech by Senator Clinton, and except for a 
> couple of things, very much the same sort of speech that Senator 
Obama 
> would have made to the same group.
> 
> Of course, he wouldn't have made the reference to Rocky Balboa 
because 
> Rocky lost in 15 rounds to a charismatic black man.  He wouldn't 
have 
> told the tragic story about the uninsured pregnant woman because 
that 
> story turns out to have been false, too.  True, there was a young 
> woman, she and her baby did die, but it turns out that she was 
insured 
> and she was not refused treatment.  Senator Clinton's campaign 
didn't 
> check the story to find out if it was true or not, unfortunately, 
and 
> so the story, again, is that Clinton was caught in a lie.
> 
> Unfortunately, the meta narrative that such misstatements support 
is 
> that Senator Clinton is a habitual liar.  The truth is no doubt 
more 
> prosaic -- her staff just didn't bother to verify the story she 
told, 
> and left it to the media, many of whom have no reason to like her, 
> to "catch" her, once again, in another "lapse".  How many lapses 
does 
> it take before her leadership credentials are more questionable 
than 
> her reputation for honesty?
> 
> And that's where I agree with your position in this campaign, but 
in a 
> backhanded sort of way; your argument is that Clinton has been so 
> bloodied in the past that essentially there's nothing more that the 
GOP 
> can possibly uncover about her, but that there *might* 
be "something" 
> that we don't know about Obama yet that will come out later, after 
he's 
> already been nominated to torpedo his candidacy, and then the 
Democrats 
> will go down in his sinking ship.
> 
> That's certainly possible, of course, but so far nothing like that 
has 
> occurred except for the Reverend Wright tempest; and Obama turned 
that 
> to his advantage, giving what many people described as one of the 
great 
> speeches in American history.  It didn't convince everyone, but the 
> subject being what it is -- racism -- it would be impossible that 
it 
> could.
> 
> But the argument that there's nothing worse that can be used 
against 
> Clinton is entirely unfounded.  Clinton is an extraordinarily 
> polarizing figure and everything that has ever been leveled against 
her 
> will be reprised a hundredfold should she gain the nomination.  Her 
> nomination would galvanize and energize the currently disheartened 
> Republican base that can barely tolerate John McCain.  Her 110-
million 
> dollar income these last 8 years and Bill Clinton's troubled 
dealings 
> with Yucaipa will be trumpeted endlessly.  Senator Clinton hasn't 
begun 
> to be pilloried and demonized and this argument, accepted without 
any 
> substantiation, but merely on faith or her say so, that she's 
already 
> been vetted is basically a pile of shit.
> 
> Senator Clinton is a fine senator and it goes without saying that 
she 
> would be a president heads and shoulders over the carbuncle 
currently 
> in office; but she is a hopelessly flawed candidate, and I stress 
the 
> hopeless.  She offers more of the same; better but only in degree, 
not 
> better in kind.
> 
> You may be correct and Senator Obama may be less than many hope him 
to 
> be, but we may hope that the spirit that he enkindles in many, many 
> people's hearts -- that *we* can be better than we have been, as a 
> nation and as a people -- is worth hoping and working for.
> 
> I'm encouraged by your words that should Obama claim the Democratic 
> nomination, you will fight for his election.  I'll be right 
alongside 
> you.
> 
> Marek
> 
> **
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sandiego108" 
<sandiego108@> 
> > wrote:
> > <snip>
> > > Hillary on the other hand seems tired and combative- not much of
> > > the old fire and true principle I used to see in her.
> > 
> > Take a look at the speech she gave a few days ago to
> > the Pennsylvania AFL-CIO:
> > 
> > http://www.hillaryclinton.com/news/speech/view/?id=6866
> >
>


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