> Sun fading the cloth happens with ANY activity, good or bad. The FACT
> that someone is not established in the Self, is seen as evidence that
> 'they still have stress in their system (at least enough to prevent CC).
> 
> Eustress is more pleasant than distress, but both are "stress" --in TM
> terms, if you're not enlightened, than you're still stressed (would
be anyway
> since no-one is without SOME level of stress, but there's a level of
stress
> past which people can't maintain Self).


I don't share your concepts of  "maintain Self" or "stress in their
system" but thanks for your POV.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
<curtisdeltablues@> wrote:
> >
> > > Both are "stress" in TM terms: they are experiences that overwhelm
> > > Self. The Big-S Self is the exact opposite of Selye's "stereotypical
> > physiological
> > > response." Selye told MMY about 40 years ago that meditation was
> > > the exact opposite, but I think that that was because he hadn't seen
> > > the transcendental consciousness research at that time.
> > 
> > I don't understand it that way.  Eustress could just be the sun part
> > of the cloth analogy.  Eustress as I understand it is challenge that
> > pushes you to greater ability and is considered positive in Selye's
> > model right?  The value of activities for infusing being was a big
> > part of the story that supported fulltimers.  Developing "flexibility"
> > etc. was purported to be created by certain activities and often
> > included a dose of sleep deprivation.  
> > 
> 
> Sun fading the cloth happens with ANY activity, good or bad. The FACT
> that someone is not established in the Self, is seen as evidence that
> 'they still have stress in their system (at least enough to prevent CC).
> 
> Eustress is more pleasant than distress, but both are "stress" --in TM
> terms, if you're not enlightened, than you're still stressed (would
be anyway
> since no-one is without SOME level of stress, but there's a level of
stress
> past which people can't maintain Self).
> 
> Lawson
>


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