--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: > > > > > > > Both are "stress" in TM terms: they are experiences that overwhelm > > > > Self. The Big-S Self is the exact opposite of Selye's "stereotypical > > > physiological > > > > response." Selye told MMY about 40 years ago that meditation was > > > > the exact opposite, but I think that that was because he hadn't seen > > > > the transcendental consciousness research at that time. > > > > > > I don't understand it that way. Eustress could just be the sun part > > > of the cloth analogy. Eustress as I understand it is challenge that > > > pushes you to greater ability and is considered positive in Selye's > > > model right? The value of activities for infusing being was a big > > > part of the story that supported fulltimers. Developing "flexibility" > > > etc. was purported to be created by certain activities and often > > > included a dose of sleep deprivation. > > > > > > > > > Yes, yes, yes. Stress can be good. You are hungry, you eat. You > > want to ride a bike, you may fall a few times. People strive and are > > competitive and handling the distress involved in learning is a big > > advantage. > > > > But not what TM is about, per se. > > > > I understand this well enough. But to expand that concept to the > > concept of unstressing resulting from meditation is unwarranted in my > > mind. Did anyone other than MMY promote the unstressing concept? > > > > Other than the concept of relaxation-induced anxiety, a term found in > the DSM? > > ANd MMY's exposition is using modern terminology to discuss ancient theories > of samskaras and so on. >
I am talking about the concept of unstressing, which is presented as not a bad thing, as getting rid of bad stuff. Relaxation induced anxiety is not at all presented as a concept similar to unstressing.