--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
> > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Both are "stress" in TM terms: they are experiences that overwhelm
> > > > Self. The Big-S Self is the exact opposite of Selye's
"stereotypical
> > > physiological
> > > > response." Selye told MMY about 40 years ago that meditation was
> > > > the exact opposite, but I think that that was because he
hadn't seen
> > > > the transcendental consciousness research at that time.
> > > 
> > > I don't understand it that way.  Eustress could just be the sun part
> > > of the cloth analogy.  Eustress as I understand it is challenge that
> > > pushes you to greater ability and is considered positive in Selye's
> > > model right?  The value of activities for infusing being was a big
> > > part of the story that supported fulltimers.  Developing
"flexibility"
> > > etc. was purported to be created by certain activities and often
> > > included a dose of sleep deprivation.  
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > Yes, yes, yes.  Stress can be good.  You are hungry, you eat.  You
> > want to ride a bike, you may fall a few times.  People strive and are
> > competitive and handling the distress involved in learning is a big
> > advantage.   
> > 
> 
> But not what TM is about, per se.
> 
> 
> > I understand this well enough.  But to expand that concept to the
> > concept of unstressing resulting from meditation is unwarranted in my
> > mind.  Did anyone other than MMY promote the unstressing concept?
> >
> 
> Other than the concept of relaxation-induced anxiety, a term found in
> the DSM?
> 
> ANd MMY's exposition is using modern terminology to discuss ancient
theories
> of samskaras and so on.
>


I am talking about the concept of unstressing, which is presented as
not a bad thing, as getting rid of bad stuff.  Relaxation induced
anxiety is not at all presented as a concept similar to unstressing.  



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