--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "claudiouk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Maybe this is common knowledge but I recently came across a statement > in a TMO website (I'd have to find it again..) that warned people not > to teach TM outside the organization because doing so > karmically "binds" the teacher to the student until the latter > reaches enlightenment; whereas the promise of enlightenment > and "responsibility" to fulfil this promise is shouldered by the TMO > if the technique is taught on behalf of the organization.
They really are on the offensive about indie TM teachers in the UK, because there are so many of them and they teach for so little. The fact they don't have to put up with controlling crap like this is probably a blessing for them. I can see a few court cases for copyright infringement coming up too, how spiritual! You'd have thought they would be happy that people were learning to meditate but no, the money has to go to the right people. Some of the people who left were the most popular course leaders you see and they took their flock with them. Serves the TMO right for all the Scorpion bullshit, God what a load of crap that was, one of the dumbest things I ever heard anybody say. Other things that the TMO says about "rogue teachers" (their expression) is that they experiment with the mantras. I know an indie teacher and he says it's rubbish, they do it by the book and the people taught have exactly the same experiences as people taught by the org. A funny thing one indie I know says is that it's so refreshing running courses outside the TMO because you get genuine spiritual seekers having a great time rather than people moaning about movement politics etc. Perhaps we should envy them for learning in a non-TMO environment. Unless the person who taught them can't carry their karma and they all die or whatever happens. > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <do.rflex@> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, m2smart4u2000 <no_reply@> > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <rick@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > On Behalf Of m2smart4u2000 > > > > Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 2:48 PM > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Promises and Ethics > > > > > > > > Does it matter whether or not you belive Marharishi did this > thing > > > or > > > > that? Does some accusation on your part, invalidate your word? > > > > Rick, you were on Maharishi's team for a long time. You sound a > > > little > > > > like MacLellan. A little late to complain about Maharishi's > > > actions. > > > > You were an adult at the time no? Why don't you delete those > posts? > > > > Where is your level of responsibility? Where are your ethical > > > standards? > > > > The only person you can control is yourself, so the > responsibilty > > > to do > > > > the right things lies with you. > > > > > > > > I admire what McLellan did. Better late than never. When I was > in > > > the TMO, I > > > > wasn't aware of a lot of the stuff that was going on. Had I > been, I > > > probably > > > > would have left sooner. Having said that, I still appreciate > > > tremendously > > > > the good TM has done me and others. But nonetheless, I don't > > > believe that > > > > the TMO should get away scot-free with some of the shit it has > > > pulled. I > > > > > > Amazing to me that people blame someone else when they lack moral > > > character. "It must be the "movement's" fault that I didn't keep > my > > > promise. Somehow this justifies my lack of ethics." It's a broad > > > excuse to justify anything and everything. Just look at what you > > > wrote, "I don't believe that the TMO should get away scot- free", > so > > > therefore YOU are going to be the one chosen to deliver whatever > you > > > deem fair recompense for (again broad undescribable term)the TMO. > > > Anything goes right? Maybe there could be some level of honor and > > > still maintain a discussion without lowering yourself to breaking > of > > > legal contracts that you signed. > > > > > > It is my understanding that the following 'promise' which TM > > initiators were asked to sign, is not a legal document. The fact > that > > no copy was issued to the initiator further makes it legally non- > binding. > > > > As far as I know the TMO hasn't hesitated in the past to seek legal > > redress in legitimate cases, but I've never heard of any such cases > > with regard to claimed violations of this particular 'promise'. > > > > Further, it is my view that the TMO under Maharishi became a corrupt > > organization - and because of that, any 'promises' made to Maharishi > > and his organization in terms of that agreement were rendered to be > > meaningless. > > > > > > TO HIS HOLINESS MAHARISHI MAHESH YOGI > > > > It is my privilege, Maharishi, to promise to teach the Principles > and > > Practice of Transcendental Meditation only as a teacher-employee of > > [IMS, SIMS, SRM, or other TM movement front group]___________ which > > accepts me as such; that I will always hold the teaching in trust > for > > you, dear Maharishi, and [IMS, SIMS, etc.]__________; that I will > > never use the teaching except as a teacher in [IMS, SIMS, > > etc.]___________ or other organisations founded by you for the > purpose > > of carrying on your work of spreading Transcendental Meditation for > > the good of Mankind; that as a teacher in [IMS, SIMS, etc.] > _________ I > > shall receive such compensation as shall be agreed between myself > and > > [IMS, SIMS, etc.]__________ in writing and, except as agreed in > > writing I expect to receive no monetary compensation but am fully > > compensated by the love and joy that I receive from the work, by the > > alleviation of suffering that I may accomplish, and by the Wisdom > that > > I obtain, expound, and cherish. > > > > In furtherance of the pledge I acknowledge that prior to receiving > the > > training I had no prior knowledge of such system of Teaching; that > > there is no other available source where the knowledge of such > > teaching may be obtained; that such training is secret and unique. I > > am a link in the chain of organisations that you have founded; and > > that to retain the purity of the teaching and movement, you have > laid > > down the wise rule that, should I ever cease to teach in [IMS, SIMS, > > etc.]__________ or other organisations founded by you for the > purpose > > of teaching Transcendental Meditation, I may be restrained by > > appropriate process from using this secret Teaching of > Transcendental > > Meditation imparted to me. > > > > It is my fortune, Guru Dev [the Maharishi's dead master], that I > have > > been accepted to serve the Holy Tradition and spread the Light of > God > > to all those who need it. > > > > It is my joy to undertake the responsibility of representing the > Holy > > Tradition in all its purity as it has been given to me by Maharishi > > and I promise on your altar, Guru Dev, that with all my heart and > mind > > I will always work within the framework of the Organisations founded > > by Maharishi. And to you, Maharishi, I promise that as a Meditation > > Guide I will be faithful in all ways to the trust that you have > placed > > in me. > > > > Jai Guru Dev > > > > DATED:_______________ > > > > _____________________ > > Maharishi Mahesh Yogi > > > > _____________________ > > > > _____________________ > > INITIATOR > > >
