--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Tom" <azgrey@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, satvadude108 <no_reply@> 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
> <shempmcgurk@> 
> > > wrote:
> > > <snip>
> > > > > Of course, the real danger to his candidacy doesn't come
> > > > > from John McCain and the Republicans but from his own party.
> > > > > The Denver convention is gearing up to be a confrontation
> > > > > that will make Chicago in '68 look like a Ghandi rally...
> > > > > Hillary wants a roll call, her supporters want a roll call,
> > > > > and there's a movement afoot to get pledged Obama delegates
> > > > > to switch their votes...and it's really growing...
> > > > 
> > > > I have been wondering when this would achieve the
> > > > critical mass necessary to get attention in the press.
> > > 
> > > Been getting it for a while, actually.
> > 
> > Oh really? And how is "a while " defined?
> 
> Well, if you're talking about organized opposition
> to Obama's nomination and the DNC, since shortly after
> Hillary endorsed him, actually. Fox News, for example,
> had PUMA members on Neil Cavuto's show on June 9. WaPo
> had a story on the anti-Obama movement on June 27.
> There've been many stories about the protests being
> planned in Denver.
> 
> The Denver Group itself was founded on June 18 and
> started accepting contributions on June 24. 
that


Thank you. I knew you would be able to provide great
detail on the matter.

Is it true that PUMA is a Republican founded and funded
group? Seems kinda Nixonian. I wonder how much dough
Sean Hannity has donated? Interesting that Hillary
supporters line up with them instead of working on 
getting a Democrat elected. 

If there are really 18 million PUMAs, why don't they 
each donate a dollar to retiring Hillary's debt?
 

 
> > > > The ActBlue site indicates donations of $380.92.
> > > 
> > > ActBlue isn't the only contribution channel. The Denver
> > > Group collected enough to run a good-sized ad in the
> > > Chicago Tribune on July 11.
> > 
> > Oh, Ok. "a while" must be defined as 3 days ago.
> 
> For The Denver Group specifically, yes.
> 
> > > http://thedenvergroup.blogspot.com/
> > > 
> > > > Do you think Hillary will openly support this movement?
> > > 
> > > Not a chance.
> > > 
> > > (Well, there's a chance, I suppose, but Obama
> > > would have to be making an even bigger fool of
> > > himself and his supporters than he has so far.)
> > 
> > Which is it? "Not a chance. Well, there's a chance "
> 
> Another way of putting it: She won't support it
> *unless* Obama makes an even bigger fool of himself
> and his supporters than he has so far.
> 
> > If I didn't know better, I'd think you hadn't made 
> > up your mind. We both know that what you are doing
> > is trying to engage one of your twisting nasty never 
> > ending exchanges.
> 
> We do?? Hey, you're the one who responded.
> 
>  You may consider them intellectual
> > tennis but I see them as the product of your very 
> > unpleasant personality. 
> 
> One can't both have an unpleasant personality and
> engage in intellectual tennis?


Clearly one can.

 
> <snip>
> > > Those who have actually been following things
> > > know that many if not most of those involved in
> > > this movement are not so much Hillary True
> > > Believers as Obama Nonbelievers.
> > 
> > I suppose that as seen thru your Obama hating
> > bitter spectacles it does look that way.
> 
> Let's see if I understand how this works. We're
> actually Hillary True Believers, but because we
> see things through our Obama-hating spectacles,
> we think we're, uh, really Obama-haters. Have I
> got that right?
> 
> > > Shemp's right about one thing, though. The number
> > > of ONBs is growing rapidly, and it's showing up
> > > in the polls, in his and McCain's approval ratings,
> > > and most noticeably in Obama's fundraising, which
> > > has slumped badly.
> > 
> > As if those are not part of the natural cycle of electioneering
> > in Primary and General election cycles.
> 
> Given the overall anti-Republican political
> climate this election year, Obama should be
> pulling away from McCain at light speed at
> this point, but instead he's falling back.
> And it was his own campaign that predicted
> $100 million in donations in June. It's
> turned out to be only $30 million or so.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  Take a seat or join the
> > fray as Hillary True Believers make complete asses of themselves.
> >
>

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