--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Tom" <azgrey@> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, satvadude108 <no_reply@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > <shempmcgurk@> > > > wrote: > > > <snip> > > > > > Of course, the real danger to his candidacy doesn't come > > > > > from John McCain and the Republicans but from his own party. > > > > > The Denver convention is gearing up to be a confrontation > > > > > that will make Chicago in '68 look like a Ghandi rally... > > > > > Hillary wants a roll call, her supporters want a roll call, > > > > > and there's a movement afoot to get pledged Obama delegates > > > > > to switch their votes...and it's really growing... > > > > > > > > I have been wondering when this would achieve the > > > > critical mass necessary to get attention in the press. > > > > > > Been getting it for a while, actually. > > > > Oh really? And how is "a while " defined? > > Well, if you're talking about organized opposition > to Obama's nomination and the DNC, since shortly after > Hillary endorsed him, actually. Fox News, for example, > had PUMA members on Neil Cavuto's show on June 9. WaPo > had a story on the anti-Obama movement on June 27. > There've been many stories about the protests being > planned in Denver. > > The Denver Group itself was founded on June 18 and > started accepting contributions on June 24. that
Thank you. I knew you would be able to provide great detail on the matter. Is it true that PUMA is a Republican founded and funded group? Seems kinda Nixonian. I wonder how much dough Sean Hannity has donated? Interesting that Hillary supporters line up with them instead of working on getting a Democrat elected. If there are really 18 million PUMAs, why don't they each donate a dollar to retiring Hillary's debt? > > > > The ActBlue site indicates donations of $380.92. > > > > > > ActBlue isn't the only contribution channel. The Denver > > > Group collected enough to run a good-sized ad in the > > > Chicago Tribune on July 11. > > > > Oh, Ok. "a while" must be defined as 3 days ago. > > For The Denver Group specifically, yes. > > > > http://thedenvergroup.blogspot.com/ > > > > > > > Do you think Hillary will openly support this movement? > > > > > > Not a chance. > > > > > > (Well, there's a chance, I suppose, but Obama > > > would have to be making an even bigger fool of > > > himself and his supporters than he has so far.) > > > > Which is it? "Not a chance. Well, there's a chance " > > Another way of putting it: She won't support it > *unless* Obama makes an even bigger fool of himself > and his supporters than he has so far. > > > If I didn't know better, I'd think you hadn't made > > up your mind. We both know that what you are doing > > is trying to engage one of your twisting nasty never > > ending exchanges. > > We do?? Hey, you're the one who responded. > > You may consider them intellectual > > tennis but I see them as the product of your very > > unpleasant personality. > > One can't both have an unpleasant personality and > engage in intellectual tennis? Clearly one can. > <snip> > > > Those who have actually been following things > > > know that many if not most of those involved in > > > this movement are not so much Hillary True > > > Believers as Obama Nonbelievers. > > > > I suppose that as seen thru your Obama hating > > bitter spectacles it does look that way. > > Let's see if I understand how this works. We're > actually Hillary True Believers, but because we > see things through our Obama-hating spectacles, > we think we're, uh, really Obama-haters. Have I > got that right? > > > > Shemp's right about one thing, though. The number > > > of ONBs is growing rapidly, and it's showing up > > > in the polls, in his and McCain's approval ratings, > > > and most noticeably in Obama's fundraising, which > > > has slumped badly. > > > > As if those are not part of the natural cycle of electioneering > > in Primary and General election cycles. > > Given the overall anti-Republican political > climate this election year, Obama should be > pulling away from McCain at light speed at > this point, but instead he's falling back. > And it was his own campaign that predicted > $100 million in donations in June. It's > turned out to be only $30 million or so. > > > > > Take a seat or join the > > fray as Hillary True Believers make complete asses of themselves. > > >