--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> My wife does a spot-on impression of "Ramtha" She won't do
> it for years and suddenly she'll stomp into a room like JZ
> Knight. Spouting all sorts of nonsense in new-age speak.
> Its hilarious.
When I lived in Sauve, I got ahold of a copy of
"What the Bleep?" because it was produced by
someone I know. I invited Robert Crumb over to
see it, because he's occasionally interested in
such things. He knew nothing about the film and
nothing about JZ Knight/Ramtha (and they hid that
well in the film).
So he watched the film with us, and then after-
wards I asked him what he thought of it. He said,
"Well I liked the one priest and a couple of the
science guys (not Hagelin), but who was that
woman who seemed to be possessed by Satan?"
I cracked right up. He nailed it.
> --- On Wed, 7/16/08, yifuxero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > From: yifuxero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maitreya and Maharishi
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Wednesday, July 16, 2008, 1:45 PM
> > -"Ramtha" was channeled by J.Z. Knight, one of the
> > main New-Age so-
> > called experts in the "What the Bleep" film.
> > Hagelin was also there
> > as a featured representative of the new physics. The
> > Ramtha/Knight
> > popularity rapidly declined after she appeared to a group
> > of gays and
> > told them they'd all be dead in 10 years. That was
> > about 20 years
> > ago. On the same level of incredibility as Creme's
> > Maitreya.
> > Wiki says:
> >
> > "Teachings
> > Ramtha is the central figure (the "master
> > teacher") of Ramtha's
> > School of Enlightenment, started by JZ Knight in 1987 in
> > Yelm,
> > Washington. Classes (or "dialogues") had been
> > held around the world
> > for the previous ten years. A central theme of Ramtha's
> > alleged
> > teachings involve the internalization of divinity (God is
> > in Us, You
> > are God, Behold God, etc.). Ramtha is described as having
> > brought his
> > knowledge to many ancient civilizations in the world such
> > as the
> > Ancient Egyptians. The website also suggests that traces of
> > the
> > lineage of the original teachings and philosophies he
> > taught 35,000
> > years ago have appeared throughout history in the schools
> > of
> > philosophers like Socrates, religions like Hinduism and
> > Judaism, and
> > the works of great minds such as Leonardo da Vinci and
> > Michelangelo.
> >
> > In Ramtha's system of thought, the material world â"
> > the densest plane
> > of existence â" and the physical body are never regarded
> > as evil,
> > undesirable, or intrinsically bad. A dualistic
> > interpretation of
> > reality typically found in the gnostic traditions â"
> > emphasizing the
> > struggle between good and evil, light and darkness, sin and
> >
> > righteousness â" is excluded in Ramtha's system of
> > thought. What
> > becomes an undesirable condition is to remain in a state of
> > ignorance
> > or denial as to our true nature and destiny.
> >
> > The four cornerstones of Ramtha's philosophy are:
> >
> > 1. The statement 'You are God'
> > 2. The directive to make known the unknown
> > 3. The concept that consciousness and energy create the
> > nature of
> > reality
> > 4. The challenge to conquer yourself
> >
> >
> >
> > Nature
> > When Knight claims she is channelling Ramtha, she speaks
> > only
> > English, although in an accented and sometimes simplistic
> > way and has
> > expressed confusion about modern items ("What is a
> > carrot?", "What
> > say you in this silver chariot?" directed at a woman
> > in a wheelchair
> > ['Ramtha', 1986]) while also professing intimate
> > knowledge of worldly
> > affairs and conspiracies. During the channeling she behaves
> > 'manly',
> > with her chest puffed up talking in a deeper and stern
> > voice, and
> > often seen smoking a pipe.[1]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "yifuxero"
> > <yifuxero@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --No connection. Creme is an a-hole. Maitreya
> > hasn't appeared yet.
> > > MMY is the maha-teacher of TM.
> > >
> > >
> > > - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008
> > <no_reply@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj
> > <vajradhatu@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > There have always been paths of freedom and
> > paths of
> > enslavement,
> > > so
> > > > > this is hardly new. Just the same old, same
> > old pattern of
> > deep
> > > > > suffering overshadowing our innate
> > authenticity. Some "masters"
> > > will
> > > > > enslave their students, while others will
> > set theirs free.
> > > >
> > > > Absolutely. Maharishi never forced His will on
> > anyone, nor does
> > > Lord
> > > > Maitreya ofcourse. Free will is a sacred
> > principle by all real
> > > Masters.
> > > > Mr. Creme's involvment is also on a 100%
> > volountary basis. He was
> > > > politely ask to be a "messengerboy" and
> > agreed. He has absolutely
> > > > nothing to gain in wordly matters by doing what
> > he is doing; no
> > > fees,
> > > > all proceeds from books goes directly and uncut
> > to Share
> > > International,
> > > > etcetc. He gets his travelexpenses covered and
> > that's it. He is
> > a
> > > > respected painter by profession. If you ask him I
> > think he'd say
> > he
> > > > would rather paint. He was politely asked to do
> > this job and
> > > agreed.
> > > > Simple.
> > > >
> > > > Just because someone, in this case petersuptken,
> > heard about it
> > in
> > > > the '80s doesn't mean it isn't real.
> > I never met Charlie Lutes,
> > but
> > > > from what I've read he was quite a loonie.
> > Several persons on FFL
> > > has
> > > > stated that Lutes had a rather liberal view
> > regarding facts, to
> > say
> > > the
> > > > least. That this dr. peter reffers to Lutes as an
> > authority on
> > > Benjamin
> > > > Creme I find eh, rather peculiar.
> > > >
> > > > That Maitreya is about to reveal His real nature
> > is obviously
> > very
> > > > difficult for religious fundamentalists to
> > swallow. Buddhist and
> > > > Christians alike. Vaj and the Turk are not alone
> > in this
> > > opposition,
> > > > actually most Buddhist are indoctrinated to
> > believe that the Lord
> > > > Maitreya will not incarnate in 300.000 years from
> > know. Another
> > > myth
> > > > soon to be shattered.
> > > >
> > > > Time will reveal how involved Maharishi was in
> > the work of
> > > Maitreya.
> > > > One of who's most prominent Masters happens
> > to be Brahmananda
> > > > Saraswathi. If you wondered why Mr. Creme's
> > information caught my
> > > > attention in the first place, well now you know.
> > > >
> > > > "Heaven will walk on earth, in this
> > generation."
> > > > - Maharishi
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
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