raunchydog wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" <jr_...@...> wrote:
>
>> Barry,
>>
>> I knew that even before you typed the email to the moderators.
>>
>> JR
>>
>> PS
>>
>> Feliz Navidad y Prospero Ano Nuevo!
>>
>>
>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote:
>>
>>> Since it appears that JohnR is not going to
>>> respond to my challenge with his analysis of
>>> my friend's medical condition as indicated in
>>> her Jyotish chart, and I want to finish up my
>>> participation in all existing threads on FFL
>>> before the new year starts, I will post the
>>> answer.
>>>
>>> ( It goes without saying that any subsequent
>>> attempts by JohnR or any other Jyotishi to
>>> say, "Oh, I saw that in the chart, but I was
>>> just late in posting my response" should be
>>> greeted with howls of derisive laughter. :-)
>>>
>>> The medical issue my friend is dealing with is
>>> called being pregnant.
>>>
>>> Other than that simple and fairly common medical
>>> issue, she is 100% healthy. Her doctors, both
>>> allopathic and from the world of alternative
>>> medicine, believe that she will have a normal
>>> home birth, but just in case, arrangements have
>>> been made by the midwives at a nearby hospital
>>> in case she requires surgery. We all hope that
>>> isn't necessary.
>>>
>>> Below is the text I sent to the FFL moderators.
>>> The only thing I changed in it was to delete
>>> my friend's last name (for privacy, and to keep
>>> stalkers away from her) and to insert the word
>>> "best" in front of "friend," because she really
>>> is my best friend. I'm heading off in a few min-
>>> utes to spend the rest of the year with her,
>>> even though that'll only be five hours. :-)
>>>
>>> Had JohnR analyzed the chart and posted that he
>>> "found" indicators of disease, that would have
>>> been partly because I described her condition as
>>> a medical issue. Well, duh, it is. Giving birth
>>> IS a medical issue, and never a 100% safe one.
>>> But IMO the only reason he would have "found"
>>> indicators of disease in her chart would have been
>>> because *he was looking for them*, and projecting
>>> them onto a chart in which they did not appear.
>>>
>>> Similarly, when Judy and Raunchydog accused me
>>> of violating my friend's privacy by making her
>>> medical condition public, they were *looking for
>>> things to demonize me with*, and projecting them
>>> onto the situation in the form of the bogus
>>> "privacy" straw man. Please join me in laughing
>>> at their attempts to portray me as a Bad Guy for
>>> violating my friend's "medical privacy." It's
>>> hard to *miss* the medical condition of someone
>>> who is eight and a half months pregnant; keeping
>>> it private is just not an option unless you are
>>> wearing a tent. :-)
>>>
>>> The original letter to the FFL moderators follows,
>>> in case someone actually wants them to confirm that
>>> this is what I sent to them earlier. As noted
>>> above, the only thing in it I have changed is to
>>> delete my friend's last name out of concern that
>>> one or more TBs here would start stalking her the
>>> same way that they stalk me and Vaj and Paul Mason
>>> and John Knapp and others who have dared to be
>>> critical of TM or its ludicrous "extra added cost"
>>> products like Jyotish.
>>>
>>> I still think that this would have been an interest-
>>> ing test, if JohnR had had the cojones to respond
>>> to it. But he didn't. I think that speaks for itself
>>> about the depth of *his* belief in the accuracy and
>>> efficacy of Jyotish.
>>>
>>> But the interesting test that DID take place was
>>> how a few TM True Believers here responded to the
>>> idea of Jyotish being put to the test. If John's
>>> lack of a response speaks volumes, theirs fills
>>> libraries.
>>>
>>> Happy New Year,
>>>
>>> Unc/Turq/Barry
>>>
>>>
>>> ***************************************************
>>>
>>> Sent to Rick, Alex, and gullible_fool:
>>>
>>> As mentioned on FFL, I am challenging JohnR to
>>> use the birth data below to pinpoint the nature
>>> of the medical condition that my friend is deal-
>>> ing with.
>>>
>>> The birth data:
>>>
>>> Born: Suffern, New York, USA
>>> September 18, 1965 18:06 (6:06 p.m.)
>>>
>>> The person, and their medical condition:
>>>
>>> This is the birth data for my best friend Laurel,
>>> who is very, very pregnant and about to give birth.
>>> Both medical doctors and alternative care providers
>>> have assured her that all is perfectly fine with
>>> the pregnancy, and that there is no danger to either
>>> mother or (soon) daughter. A normal birth is planned,
>>> but as I said there is the possibility of required
>>> surgery if things don't go as planned.
>>>
>>> As I understand Jyotish, *if it works* John should
>>> have no problem with noticing this medical condition
>>> in her chart, even if I did not specify the sex of
>>> the person. In fact another Jyotish practitioner
>>> DID, in fact, predict the pregnancy from her chart
>>> a year before it happened. She wasn't trying to
>>> get pregnant.
>>>
>
> Dang, Barry. I was sure you were going to put one of your dogs up for
> the Jyotish test. My bad. Anyway, have a Happy New Year.
That might be a rather old dog wouldn't it?
