--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" <jr_...@...> wrote:
>
> Barry,
> 
> I knew that even before you typed the email to the moderators.
> 
> JR



John, what specifically did you know -before- Barry "typed the email
to the moderators"?



> 
> PS
> 
> Feliz Navidad y Prospero Ano Nuevo!
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > Since it appears that JohnR is not going to 
> > respond to my challenge with his analysis of
> > my friend's medical condition as indicated in
> > her Jyotish chart, and I want to finish up my
> > participation in all existing threads on FFL
> > before the new year starts, I will post the 
> > answer. 
> > 
> > ( It goes without saying that any subsequent 
> > attempts by JohnR or any other Jyotishi to 
> > say, "Oh, I saw that in the chart, but I was 
> > just late in posting my response" should be 
> > greeted with howls of derisive laughter. :-)
> > 
> > The medical issue my friend is dealing with is
> > called being pregnant.
> > 
> > Other than that simple and fairly common medical 
> > issue, she is 100% healthy. Her doctors, both 
> > allopathic and from the world of alternative 
> > medicine, believe that she will have a normal 
> > home birth, but just in case, arrangements have 
> > been made by the midwives at a nearby hospital 
> > in case she requires surgery. We all hope that 
> > isn't necessary.
> > 
> > Below is the text I sent to the FFL moderators.
> > The only thing I changed in it was to delete 
> > my friend's last name (for privacy, and to keep 
> > stalkers away from her) and to insert the word 
> > "best" in front of "friend," because she really 
> > is my best friend. I'm heading off in a few min-
> > utes to spend the rest of the year with her, 
> > even though that'll only be five hours. :-)
> > 
> > Had JohnR analyzed the chart and posted that he 
> > "found" indicators of disease, that would have 
> > been partly because I described her condition as 
> > a medical issue. Well, duh, it is. Giving birth 
> > IS a medical issue, and never a 100% safe one. 
> > But IMO the only reason he would have "found" 
> > indicators of disease in her chart would have been 
> > because *he was looking for them*, and projecting 
> > them onto a chart in which they did not appear. 
> > 
> > Similarly, when Judy and Raunchydog accused me 
> > of violating my friend's privacy by making her 
> > medical condition public, they were *looking for 
> > things to demonize me with*, and projecting them 
> > onto the situation in the form of the bogus 
> > "privacy" straw man. Please join me in laughing 
> > at their attempts to portray me as a Bad Guy for 
> > violating my friend's "medical privacy." It's 
> > hard to *miss* the medical condition of someone 
> > who is eight and a half months pregnant; keeping 
> > it private is just not an option unless you are
> > wearing a tent. :-)
> > 
> > The original letter to the FFL moderators follows,
> > in case someone actually wants them to confirm that 
> > this is what I sent to them earlier. As noted 
> > above, the only thing in it I have changed is to 
> > delete my friend's last name out of concern that 
> > one or more TBs here would start stalking her the 
> > same way that they stalk me and Vaj and Paul Mason 
> > and John Knapp and others who have dared to be 
> > critical of TM or its ludicrous "extra added cost" 
> > products like Jyotish. 
> > 
> > I still think that this would have been an interest-
> > ing test, if JohnR had had the cojones to respond
> > to it. But he didn't. I think that speaks for itself
> > about the depth of *his* belief in the accuracy and
> > efficacy of Jyotish.
> > 
> > But the interesting test that DID take place was 
> > how a few TM True Believers here responded to the 
> > idea of Jyotish being put to the test. If John's
> > lack of a response speaks volumes, theirs fills
> > libraries.
> > 
> > Happy New Year,
> > 
> > Unc/Turq/Barry
> > 
> > 
> > ***************************************************
> > 
> > Sent to Rick, Alex, and gullible_fool:
> > 
> > As mentioned on FFL, I am challenging JohnR to
> > use the birth data below to pinpoint the nature
> > of the medical condition that my friend is deal-
> > ing with. 
> > 
> > The birth data:
> > 
> > Born: Suffern, New York, USA
> > September 18, 1965 18:06 (6:06 p.m.)
> > 
> > The person, and their medical condition:
> > 
> > This is the birth data for my best friend Laurel,
> > who is very, very pregnant and about to give birth.
> > Both medical doctors and alternative care providers
> > have assured her that all is perfectly fine with
> > the pregnancy, and that there is no danger to either
> > mother or (soon) daughter. A normal birth is planned,
> > but as I said there is the possibility of required
> > surgery if things don't go as planned.
> > 
> > As I understand Jyotish, *if it works* John should 
> > have no problem with noticing this medical condition 
> > in her chart, even if I did not specify the sex of
> > the person. In fact another Jyotish practitioner 
> > DID, in fact, predict the pregnancy from her chart
> > a year before it happened. She wasn't trying to
> > get pregnant.
> >
>


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