--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Jan 2, 2009, at 10:06 AM, Patrick Gillam wrote: > > > Thanks. Maybe someday I'll be able to appreciate > > the subtleties of the terms above, but these days > > I define transcendence in a more boneheaded way: > > awareness aware of itself, as opposed to aware of > > thoughts or sense impressions. > > > And keep in mind, the aforementioned > sthiti state is experientially > identical to what you're describing. Of course > I'm not able to experience what you're experiencing, > so it's impossible to say, since > I'm not omniscient. Yet. :-) > > But if I was sitting next to you, I'd be able > to tell. One of the best determinants for actual > transcendence is to test the startle > reflex. It's the hardest reflex to eliminate > through attentional means. How do you think > you would react while transcending if say, a > shot gun blast, was fired off right behind you? > Would you flinch?
I would indeed flinch. I do not pass into some transcendental zone when I do my program. I am very much awake and aware of what's going on around me. It's just that I'm also aware of awareness itself, along with everything else.