How do you think 
> > you would react while transcending if say, a  
> > shot gun blast, was fired off right behind you? 
> > Would you flinch?
> 
> I would indeed flinch.

Don't sweat it Pat, word is that Tat Walla Baba flinched too.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" <jpgil...@...>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
> >
> > 
> > On Jan 2, 2009, at 10:06 AM, Patrick Gillam wrote:
> > 
> > > Thanks. Maybe someday I'll be able to appreciate
> > > the subtleties of the terms above, but these days
> > > I define transcendence in a more boneheaded way:
> > > awareness aware of itself, as opposed to aware of
> > > thoughts or sense impressions.
> > 
> > 
> > And keep in mind, the aforementioned 
> > sthiti state is experientially  
> > identical to what you're describing. Of course 
> > I'm not able to experience what you're experiencing, 
> > so it's impossible to say, since  
> > I'm not omniscient. Yet. :-)
> > 
> > But if I was sitting next to you, I'd be able 
> > to tell. One of the best determinants for actual 
> > transcendence is to test the startle  
> > reflex. It's the hardest reflex to eliminate 
> > through attentional means. How do you think 
> > you would react while transcending if say, a  
> > shot gun blast, was fired off right behind you? 
> > Would you flinch?
> 
> I would indeed flinch. I do not pass into some 
> transcendental zone when I do my program. I am 
> very much awake and aware of what's going on 
> around me. It's just that I'm also aware of  
> awareness itself, along with everything else.
>


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