--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_re...@...> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" <raunchydog@> wrote:
> >
> > Edg, Thanks for sharing what fatherhood means to you.  
> > Beautiful. You are a fortunate man to have allowed 
> > yourself the experience of a profoundly loving 
> > relationship with your children at their birth. 
> > Very touching.
> 
> I'll admit to having read the following 14 lines,
> mainly because I was curious as to what would 
> impress a Raunchydog. And I'll give both Raunchy
> and Edg my honest opinion.
> 
> It's *exactly the same kind of language* you hear
> from Dads hauled into court for child or spousal
> abuse. Ask Dr. Pete or Marek.
> 
> *Every one of them* can trot out stuff like this. 
> As well they should. They've practiced it often,
> every time they've had to try to talk their wives
> out of divorcing them. 
> 
> IMO it's a form of "channeling." Ashamed of not
> being able to control their lower emotions, they
> think that they can somehow justify them by, for
> a short period of time, channeling a "higher"
> emotion to paint themselves as sympathetic and
> merely misunderstood. 
> 
> I don't buy it. I suspect that Edg writes this
> way about his kids because they won't have anything
> to do with him, and writing about them like this
> is the closest he can get to them. We've all seen
> how he lashes out at anyone who doesn't buy his
> act here on FFL; can we imagine that he'd be any
> different in a family situation?
> 
> I might be wrong about this, but that's how the
> following paragraph strikes me. I'm helping to
> raise a new baby myself, the daughter of my best
> friend. And it's really neat. But so far I haven't
> felt the need to write about it here to show how
> sensitive and loving *I* am. Like the child abuser
> waxing poetic about how much he loves the kid
> covered with bruises, such language tends to 
> ring a little false and self-serving.

Barry, I think it's great you are helping to raise a baby. It's a beautiful 
experience. How do you feel about it? Share.
 
> But hey!, Raunchy...if you like it, cool. Me, I
> just have higher standards when it comes to 
> writing, and to people. The word that stands out
> for me in the paragraph below is "narcissist." The 
> entire paragraph is about how his kids made *Edg* 
> feel, not about the kids themselves. 
> 
> It's the "I love my kids because they make *me* 
> feel special" counterpart of "I'm enlightened 
> because believing I am makes *me* feel special."
> That's probably why Jim liked it, too. That and
> the fact that it was dumping on Barry.  :-)
> 
> 
> > "Every child of mine was entirely unique, and this was 
> > clear to me instantly when each one took the very first 
> > breath. I cut their cords. I whispered into tiny ears 
> > my cosmic love pouring from a heart newly aflame, a 
> > heart bursting to unexpected heights. My whole being 
> > flowed into their every possible future and blessed it.  
> > I could not kiss them enough, could not hug them as 
> > tenderly as their preciousness deserved, could not tear 
> > my mind from the perfection of their potentials. I who 
> > am a narcissist, a Leo, had my rock-heart melted by the 
> > first glance when their eyes opened to see my face for 
> > the first time. The world could never be the same, I 
> > was theirs  forever, and I loved the challenge it 
> > presented to me -- down to its quarks."
>


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