--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Irmeli" <irmeli.matts...@...> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote: > > > Wilber's vertical-vs.-horizontal development scheme also > > makes excellent sense to me, especially the notion that > > they aren't necessarily coordinated, i.e., that one can > > be further along in vertical development than one is in > > horizontal development, and vice-versa. This has a great > > deal of explanatory value, it seems to me. It may be a > > huge and potentially very dangerous mistake to assume > > progress on one scale implies equal progress on the other. > > Yes it helps to dispel a lot of confusion especially in > the area of spirituality. We can learn a lot from spiritual > teachers and gurus considering advanced states without > expecting them to be highly evolved as persons. > > It can also bring a relief for gurus in form of > expectations put to them to be in every way perfect human > beings, if they master the nondual state.
But from the side of the one who has mastered tne nondual state, it appears that in at least some cases, the experience of that state is that one has become in tune with (in MMY's terminology) the "laws of nature," and that this means one's actions are all spontaneously "right." So it may not be the expectations only of the followers of such gurus; it may be the experientially based conviction of the gurus themselves that they can do no wrong.
