--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jst...@...> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajradhatu@> wrote: > > > > On Mar 31, 2010, at 12:58 PM, Rick Archer wrote: > > > > > The authors said that these findings shed light on the > > > common mistake of lumping meditations together. > > > > > > "Meditations differ in both their ingredients and their > > > effects, just as medicines do, so lumping them all > > > together as 'essentially the same' is simply a mistake,' > > > Dr. Shear said. > > > > > Zzzzz. > > One suspects Vaj *has* read this study, or at least the > abstract, yet his comments are just as stupid as Sal's-- > but his comments are *knowingly* stupid, i.e., intended > to mislead and deceive.
In light of the adjacent discussions, is stupid objective or subjective? And what happens when O meets S? > > > "Other relaxation techniques have led > > to the same EEG profile, and studies that > > employed counter-balanced control relaxation > > conditions consistently found a lack > > of alpha power increases or even decreases > > when comparing relaxation or hypnosis to > > TM meditation (Morse et al., 1977; Tebecis, > > 1975; Warrenburg, Pagano, Woods, & > > Hlastala, 1980). > > Even if this were true--and it's mightily suspect, > since the authors didn't examine any of the more > recent research--it wouldn't invalidate the findings > of this study, which simply makes distinctions > between three different types of meditation > (distinctions that Vaj *himself* would make if he > weren't trying to pretend there was something wrong > with this study). > > Similarly, the initial claim > > that TM produces a unique state of consciousness > > different from sleep has been > > refuted by several EEG meditation studies > > that reported sleep-like stages during this > > technique with increased alpha and then > > theta power (Pagano, Rose, Stivers, & Warrenburg, > > 1976; Younger, Adriance, & Berger, > > 1975)." > > And has been pointed out *many* times here, this > "finding" is thoroughly bogus--so bogus that it > documents either gross ignorance on the authors' > part of what TM's claims actually are, or an > intention to deliberately mislead. > > TM, of course, *does not claim* that the unique > state of consciousness produced by TM occurs > throughout the meditation period, so the findings > of "sleep-like stages" is entirely irrelevant to > what it *does* claim; in no way does it "refute" > TM's claims. > > Vaj knows this, but he posted it anyway. > > > > The Cambridge Handbook of Consciousness >
