--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" <fintlewoodle...@...> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: > > > > > Do you share this belief about yourself,is that why you > > > are so quick to defend him? > > > > BREAKING NEWS: You don't have to share a person's beliefs > > to defend them from unfair attack. > > But using them as an excuse to launch and attack of your own > is OK. > > > > > That said, I don't know whether one's state of mind can > > affect "the world" (depending on what you mean by "world"), > > and *neither do you*. > > Given that we know what causes earthquakes and there is no > evidence that the mind can affect the physical world I > can't see what there is to gain from continually speculating > that ancient beliefs invented to explain unpleasant occurences > have any sort of place outside of selling "spiritual" nonsense. > Something Chopra does rather well out of. > > > > But like Chopra, I don't believe one person's meditation > > can bring about an earthquake. > > How about 5000 people? >
Thinking about this just having dwelled on and posted (comments on a Turquoise post) )my interpretation of what I term interaction with a high-shakti person -- I offer up the possiblility -- in my experience - that such a person can make you tangibly feel their presence -- and that "thing" can get transfered to others / me. The experience makes quite credible (to me, one person, not exactly science) the "lion lay down with the lamb" thing. That some people can radiate a universal love shakti thing that does rub off on the environment and people and animals are affected by it. (when I started mediation I had a dog who would lie down outside my door and calmly wait for me to finish my med. Maybe it was simply a natural dog affection thing. But my dog didn't sit outside my door at other times. Again, not science, but an anecdotal dot.) Even if this experience is only cognized by humans and animals (and my experience hardly proves that such occurs) -- my sense is that it could affect inanimate physical things too. Continuing on this woo woo ray tangent (I am generally quite rational and skeptical), in these universal love states i can sense the personality of trees and plants. Quite distinct entities. And my love for them seems felt -- and they seem responsive. (to be more specific, its like a lake of universal love, undirected, that is then directed at them. There is a focus on them. An adorational devotion kind of focus. But its not at all like the charismatic beaming discussed in my comments tot the Turquoise post.) Like they would protect me in their "enchanted forest". (I know, lock me up, we can't have people walking the streets thinking they can talk to trees).
