--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <curtisdeltabl...@...> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: > > <snip> > > > So much of Maharishi's speech patterns were designed to > > > overwhelm our mind's ability to analyze what he was saying. > > > > And your scientific evidence that MMY deliberately > > designed his speech patterns to prevent you from > > analyzing what he was saying? > > "Science" is what Doug was claiming, and that I was > challenging. I make no claims that my analysis is > scientific, it is a opinion from the body of work done > by Bandler and Grinder analysing speech patterns of > Milton Erickson and other state change experts. I am > certified as a practitioner of NLP (FWIW) so that is > the basis of my opinion.
OK, so it's just your opinion, then. Thank you for clarifying. > You also added the word "deliberately" which I would > not do. Perhaps the word "designed" wasn't quite right, then, because that implies intention. But thank you for clarifying. > Maharishi was probably just using the same techniques > of language used on him. One of the things I liked about > NLP was that it gave a framework to understand language > patterns that people use naturally through trial and > error. It is not claiming that every person using > language that defies the conscious mind to keep track of > the details is conscious of the techniques they are > employing. > > But after sitting in a room for hours and hours of tapes > for what added up to over 2 years of my life, enduring > endless repetition of the same phrases, I'm pretty sure > Maharishi was not very interested in my conscious mind > in his communications. YMMV Interesting that he would want his teachers not to analyze what he said, but apparently had no such reservations about ordinary TMers doing so. Oh, wait, but so many of the tapes we saw were made during TTCs. Did you notice that when the video camera was on, he would suddenly stop using those speech patterns and talk so that you could analyze what he said for a while until the camera was turned off? > I am not even endorsing all the claims of NLP which get > pretty far-fetched but I believe their language work was > excellent and some of it has trickled down to mainstream > psychology. Frankly, I think trying to apply NLP theories to MMY doesn't make a whole lot more sense than trying to apply quantum theory to the Unified Field. IMHO, of course.
