--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jst...@...> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <curtisdeltablues@> 
> wrote:
> <snip>
> > So much of Maharishi's speech patterns were designed to
> > overwhelm our mind's ability to analyze what he was saying.
> 
> And your scientific evidence that MMY deliberately
> designed his speech patterns to prevent you from
> analyzing what he was saying?

"Science" is what Doug was claiming, and that I was challenging.  I make no 
claims that my analysis is scientific, it is a opinion from the body of work 
done by Bandler and Grinder analysing speech patterns of Milton Erickson and 
other state change experts.  I am certified as a practitioner of NLP (FWIW) so 
that is the basis of my opinion. You also added the word "deliberately" which I 
would not do.  Maharishi was probably just using the same techniques of 
language used on him.  One of the things I liked about NLP was that it gave a 
framework to understand language patterns that people use naturally through 
trial and error.  It is not claiming that every person using language that 
defies the conscious mind to keep track of the details is conscious of the 
techniques they are employing.

But after sitting in a room for hours and hours of tapes for what added up to 
over 2 years of my life, enduring endless repetition of the same phrases, I'm 
pretty sure Maharishi was not very interested in my conscious mind in his 
communications.  YMMV 

I am not even endorsing all the claims of NLP which get pretty far-fetched but 
I believe their language work was excellent and some of it has trickled down to 
mainstream psychology.



> 
> > There is an old saw from Neuro-Linguistic Programming that
> > if you have been listening to someone for 5 minutes and
> > you still haven't heard anything that you could put in a 
> > wheelbarrow, you are being hypnotized.
> 
> Gee, that sounds really scientific there.
>


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