--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" <steve.sun...@...> wrote: > > the Daniel suicide deal was going to cycle back to some more > common sense thinking, it seems to be taking off in the other > direction. This tribute by Radhika Schwartz (no relation to Dan) > on BATGAP is so far off base(in my opinion) that I'm just at a > loss for words. I'm going with Feste's succinct analysis of the > whole situation.
I don't remember feste's "succinct analysis," but mine is, "These people are fuckin' NUTS." See for yourself: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BuddhaAtTheGasPump/message/4999 There is a passage in this that really strikes me, because as I said at the beginning of this week, my fascination is with the *assumptions* that spiritual seekers assume are true, and then base their lives on and never challenge again. Let's analyze what the *assumption* is in this passage: "Daniel made that same pact [give me liberation or I'll kill myself] He said over and over , I have done everything in my power, everything I know how to do to free myself from suffering, from the bonds that are holding me. from this sense of separation ,which is unbearable . Nothing matters to me except freedom. I cant live this way anymore. I am not just saying this. either give me freedom or I will end my life." What is the "lack of freedom" being spoken of here? Am I wrong in thinking it's LIVING? If this is true, and not just some story that this twif thought up, the person saying this or thinking this has become convinced that LIVING and having an identity is "suffering." The only thing the person can conceive of as non-suffering is (IMO, trying to interpret) the state of total transcendence, with nothing left but Self. Anything else is "unbearable." I'm sorry, but that's crazy talk. It even contradicts *Maharishi's* teachings, and this twif is trying to glorify it. This is the ultimate nihilism of "the drop returns to the ocean" personified. Someone who is being represented as feeling that he is "suffering" because some part of him remains human is being presented as if he was *onto something*. Remember, Daniel is being presented by people as having been somewhat "realized," or having achieved at least some aspect of enlightenment. And we're to believe that he perceived *THIS* as "suffering?" And all because he still had a LIFE, and could walk around and breathe and interact with the world? The fascinating thing for me is that the twif who said this probably thinks it's inspiring. I'm thinking she's fuckin' NUTS.