--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Unc, other than one other response to this thread (the one who said > his brother did it pre-TM 20 feet down the road or something like > that), you are the very first person who I have ever heard of that > has claimed to have witnessed first-hand actual levitation. > > As such, I feel compelled to ask you for much more detail to your > experience, please.
No problem. > When did this happen? Dozens of times -- probably more like hundreds, actually -- over a 14-year period starting in 1981. > Where? Actual city/state and location (i.e. house, ashram, type of > room, etc.) Dozens of locations. The first time, in the Los Angeles Convention Center. In the buildings we were using for our weekly meetings. In the desert. Once in a Denny's in the dead of night when no customers or waiters were around. :-) > Did you experience it only once? Nope. Many times. As did most of the other students who studied with the guy. I will also emphasise, for the record, the word "most." Some people (10-15) never saw anything; others (1000s over the years, sometimes 500 at once) saw this stuff all the time. Therefore, it would appear to be a phenomenon that is not entirely physical, and takes place at least to some extent on subtle physical levels. If you're asking whether it was ever recorded on film, I don't think so, and I don't know whether it could have been. But it was neat to witness, both as a phenomenon and as a field of energy to be part of. The latter was the real benefit of being around someone who is doing this, IMO. > Who exactly did the levitating. Rama. Dr. Frederick Lenz. Crazy Fred. As far as I know, he never practiced any techniques to make it happen. As he explained it, he just woke up one day and remembered how to do it. Something from a past life. He never taught how to do it to any of his students, as far as I know. > Was it photographed/videotaped and if not, why not? No, and I don't know why not. He didn't believe very much in trying to document any of the things he could do. His theory was that this stuff is hard enough to believe if it's happening right in front of your face in the same room you are in (a statement I can attest to the truth of). So who's going to believe a videotape? Because some people saw this phenomenon and others in the same room did not, I have my doubts that it would have been captured on videotape. > What was the circumstances of the manifestation, that is, was it in > front of many people, just yourself...was the lighting and the > surroundings such that it couldn't be faked, etc. All the settings mentioned before, so "setup" or "prep" required. In the one at Denny's a bunch of us were sitting around one of those round tables at 4:00 in the morning and all the waitresses disappeared, probably to grab a quick cigarette in the kitchen, and he smiled and just lifted up off the naugahyde diner seat and hovered there for about 30 seconds, grinning to beat all. :-) > I ask this because > on my last trip to Las Vegas I visited one of those magic kiosks > where they sell magic tricks and I actually saw a magician > demonstate a "trick" that he was selling to the public in which he > makes a coin levitate and spin right in front of you (and for the > hell of it, I could NOT figure out how he did it but I DO know that > it was some sort of magic technique and NOT actual levitation). My roommate during my last year with the TM organization was an airbrush artist who did costumes for Doug Henning. So Doug would come over to the house a lot and would show us some close-up magic. I know he was most famous for his big stage effects, but the man's real genius was with his close-up magic. I was two feet in front of him, able to move around and look at his hands from any angle I chose, and I still couldn't figure out how he did it. I will admit for the sake of intellectual openness that some trick could have been involved in what Rama did, but I honestly don't think there was any. The variety of the settings and the spontaneity with which he'd decide to do this stuff disallows any preparation or equipment. I will also admit, for the same reasons, that there might have been some kind of psychic siddhi going on, in which people's perceptions were altered to allow them to see a phenomenon that might not have been present on a physical level. But there was never any suggestion of what was about to happen. The most he'd ever say was, "Watch." He never said *what* to watch for, and levitation was only one of the siddhis he was good at, so there was no telling what, if anything, was going to happen. And yet most of us saw stuff, and everyone who saw it agreed on what was seen. Go figure. I still haven't fully figured it out myself. Personally I wasn't into studying with him for the flash and all the siddhis. I liked meditating with the guy. But the flash was interesting, and it *definitely* had its intended effect of blowing your mind and forcing you to drop all the conditioning you'd grown up with about what is and is not possible. Unc To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
