What I love about Judy is her ability, when someone
suggests that she is lost in the past and overly
attached to her or others' imagined triumphs in that 
past over her enemies, to attempt to *disprove* this 
awful lie by foraging around in the past and reposting 
her and others' imagined triumphs over her enemies.

Similarly, when someone suggests that her INTENT
in posting most of the things she posts is diss the
people she hates and attempt to get others to hate
them, too, she *disproves* this awful slur by doing 
exactly what the person suggested she does, and
*demonstrating* that INTENT.

I'm sure, because Judy is the smartest person here,
that there is some hidden logic or strategy in this
approach, but it escapes me.

BTW Judy, I think I'd heard about the size of your 
breasts from someone on a.m.t. who'd met you. He 
said that while out walking together one day, you
stepped on them.

:-)

Hey, the woman is almost 70. You do the gravity math.  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jst...@...> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "WillyTex" <willytex@> wrote:
> > 
> > > Barry's referring to a bunch of quotes I'd posted 
> > > of Andrew taking shots at Barry, because they were 
> > > pretty funny...
> > >
> > They sure were - Barry 'Shoki' wasn't ready for the
> > Assholenick! 
> 
> Oh, heck, I think I'll post them again just for the fun
> of it, for those who missed them the first time around.
> 
> Bear in mind as you read: My posting the quotes from
> Andrew's posts below, according to Barry, was such a dastardly "attempt at 
> defamation" that it compared in
> "tactics and intent" to emailing Andrew's employers
> copies of his alt.m.t postings in an attempt to get
> him fired--and therefore I must have been the guilty
> party in the latter case.
> 
> What was so hysterically funny about Barry and Andrew's
> exchanges that each had instantly recognized the other
> for the fraud he was. What's so delicious about it *now*
> is that it makes it very difficult to support both of
> the two phonies in their respective crusades against
> their common TMer "enemies"--because if you support one,
> you are automatically dissing the other.
> 
> Andrew wrote:
> 
> -----
> 
> Shoki, whose name is Barry Wright, is a disciple of Fred
> Lenz, a.k.a. Zen Master Rama. Quite a number of former
> followers are publicly claiming that Lenz victimized them
> financially, psychologically -- and in some cases sexually.
> So I'm not surprised that shoki insists blame should
> remain with the victim. Such a view serves his Master.
> 
> ------
> 
> Since I strongly suspect this vitriol comes from a hired
> gun, who's purpose is to discredit critics of cults on
> the Internet, I take the above insults as flattering
> encouragement. Obviously my postings have struck home or
> else schlocki wouldn't be all over me like a hunger-
> crazed deerfly....
> 
> Schloki, is anyone paying you to slink along the Internet
> and post libelous attacks on anyone who dares to criticize
> cult-like groups? I see a pattern here, a pattern that
> would be hard to explain in the absence of a financial
> motive.
> 
> ------
> 
> Let's look at the real motiviation for his hateful postings:
> This character, who goes under the pseudonym of shoki and
> refuses to identify himself, was a long-time devotee of
> Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. He became disillusioned and left.
> I'm told he went off to follow another guru.
> 
> Now he's come back to haunt the TM newsgroup, claiming he's
> now neither for or against TM. This is what I suspect:
> Shoki's an egomaniac. He wants to be worshipped. He's here
> hoping to recruit a following. He now knows there's no future
> in being a guru groupie. Wealth and power only flows uphill
> to where the guru sits.
> 
> Like a vulture, he senses his former guru, Maharishi Mahesh
> Yogi, is frail and soon to become *immortal* by dying,
> leaving his followers in turmoil and dismay. So he's come
> back to perch and wait while trying to win over TM lurkers
> who are growing increasingly disillusioned (after all,
> the Maharishi isn't flying all about the skies as they thought
> he would -- he can barely hobble around the room on his own).
> 
> Now let's listen to how well shoki thinks he's doing with
> part of his game plan:
> 
> [quoting Barry:]
> 
> > How I chose to deal with it is admittedly juvenile, but
> > effective. I let others debate him head-to-head on his points;
> > they are good at it, he is good at it. The result seems
> > a wash, and fails to make the point I wanted to make, that he
> > is _heavily_ and very emotionally involved in this issue, to
> > the point of it being an obsession. So I absolutely refuse
> > to take him seriously, and to continue to prod him and poke
> > fun at him whenever possible. His replies, like the one
> > above, tend to reveal more of his true motivations than do his
> > canned posts to the newsgroups he cultivates his reputation on.
> 
> The amazing thing about shoki, is that you can play him like a
> kazoo and he thinks he's the one making the music.
> 
> As James Randi often says, hucksters are like rubber ducks.
> You just can't sink them. They keep popping back up. The best
> we can do is get others to laugh at them. I hope others are
> enjoying shoki's toots and hee haws as much as I am. ;-)
> 
> ------
> 
> [Andrew to Barry:]
> Speaking of looking sane, is it true that some guy posed
> as a woman admirer of yours on the Internet and buttered
> you upside and down with things to flatter your ego and that
> you wound up spilling you guts to her.. I mean him? Tell me
> that that's not true, shoki baby. Because if it's true, ...
> Oh, God -- what a pathetic boob that would make you. I'd
> have to start feeling sorry for you and treat you with more
> kindness ;-) Tell me it ain't so, shoki. Tell me it ain't so.
>


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