--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut <no_reply@...> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <LEnglish5@> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall <thomas.pall@> wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Peter <drpetersutphen@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 1/24/11, nablusoss1008 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maharishi commented something like; even poison can give > > > > > enlightenment. > > > > > > > > > > But added; don't try this on your own - then He laughed for > > > > > minutes > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > I have to go with my experiences, Nabs. Maharishi is a blazing ball of > > > > Brahman. He produced another blazing ball of Brahman, SSRS. Just like > > > > Guru > > > > Dev produced MMY. No problems. My dharma, not necessarily yours. > > > > > > > > "No effort on this path is every wasted" -- Krishna, *Bhagavad Gita* > > > > > > > > > > > "No effort is wasted because no effort is used!" -MMY commentary. > > > > That's a good one, very smart. Actually no effort is ever used, as there is > no doer :-) >
People like to tell me that "intent is 'required" to meditate and therefore there has to be some effort. MMY said "least effort in the directon of less effort" and my observation is that whatever effort you find yourself using, is more than is necessary. Of course, if the effort is so slight that you don't even notice, is there effort or not? ANd if meditation begins spontaneously without you even noticing until 20 or so minutes later that you have begun thinking the mantra and going through cycles of mantra, thoughts, mantra, thoughts, no mantra, no thoughts, mantra, thoughts, etc., did you use effort to begin? If there's no effort to begin, and no effort to continue and you drift into the sutras practice spontaneously after 20 minutes of the above, again without noticing, and then drift into Yogic Flying practice... Where's the effort? Mind you I'm not claiming that this is a good/best/worst/ideal situation, just that it has happened. Lawson
