It is a different kind of meditation Vaj. There is never an attempt to discern the object clearly with TM.
The focus in TM, if you can call it that, is on the movement of the widening of the container of consciousness, not on any object within it. The dynamic of consciousness expansion is the focus, if you can call it that, in the front of the mind. Because consciousness is always moving, there is no object to discern. The mechanics are quite different from what you are describing, Vaj. During the practice of TM, The mantra is appreciated over time, at random intervals of attention, shedding its own soft light on whatever state of consciousness we find ourselves in, and on whatever random thoughts may be associated with that. That flow of attention from the mantra to thoughts or no thoughts, and back, is not to be appreciated or judged, but just easily experienced. Less structured. More holistic, outside of logic, unless we want to include discrimination between this and that without judgment, as logic. You are just describing a different form of meditation.:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajradhatu@...> wrote: > > > On Jan 26, 2011, at 11:23 AM, sparaig wrote: > > > How do you (or I) know that I thought the mantra 20 minutes ago > > without noticing? > > > > I assume that is how I slipped into the practice, but since I > > didn't notice starting to think the mantra, perhaps I didn't. > > > > > > Sheesh. > > > > You're hung up on what *I* need or don't need. Have you noticed? > > > Well you're either practicing meditation with a mantra or you're not. > > You may just not have been mindful during your practice or you were > not able to discern your object clearly for whatever reason. >
