--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajradhatu@...> wrote:
>
> 
> On Mar 5, 2011, at 5:11 AM, sparaig wrote:
> 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote:
> >> 
> >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote:
> >> <snip>
> >>> On the face of it, it isn't at all impossible that you
> >>> simply didn't reach that depth and clarity and length
> >>> of time of transcending when you were practicing TM.
> >>> But that doesn't mean, as you keep claiming, that TM
> >>> *cannot* lead to such experience.
> >> 
> >> Whoops, incomplete edit. Let me try that again:
> >> 
> >> That you didn't reach that depth and clarity and length
> >> of time of transcending when you were practicing TM
> >> doesn't mean, as you keep claiming, that TM *cannot*
> >> lead to such experience.
> >> 
> > 
> > Nor does it need to.
> > 
> > My transcending time is better than yours is not integral to TM-theory in 
> > the first place.
> 
> Well it would mean some are reaching the "bottom" of the ocean (TC) in the 
> bubble diagram, and others are only 'blanking out' at one of the subtle waves 
> towards the bottom, in a laya (Non-TC).
> 
> If you think "that's OK" that seems like a pretty bad rationalization to 
> accept. It's effectively resigning yourself to a limbo.
>

If you think its not OK, then you have missed the point. As MMY points out, at 
least according to HIS theory, you can fail to "transcend" (no thoughts no 
mantra) every time you meditate until your last meditation before 
enlightenment, and you're still doing just fine.

Lawson

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