--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajradhatu@...> wrote:
>
> 
> On Mar 5, 2011, at 4:14 PM, sparaig wrote:
> 
> >> Well it would mean some are reaching the "bottom" of the ocean (TC) in the 
> >> bubble diagram, and others are only 'blanking out' at one of the subtle 
> >> waves towards the bottom, in a laya (Non-TC).
> >> 
> >> If you think "that's OK" that seems like a pretty bad rationalization to 
> >> accept. It's effectively resigning yourself to a limbo.
> >> 
> > 
> > If you think its not OK, then you have missed the point. As MMY points out, 
> > at least according to HIS theory, you can fail to "transcend" (no thoughts 
> > no mantra) every time you meditate until your last meditation before 
> > enlightenment, and you're still doing just fine.
> 
> I'd say that's a pretty shakey theory. It sounds more like a sales point.
> 
> The pranic body (TMer trans.: "nervous system") doesn't refine ("release 
> stress") unless one actually transcends.
> 
> But of course relaxing isn't bad for you, so there's a minor (nap-like) 
> benefit...
>

/shrug. First we can't be really transcending unless it is the same kind of 
thing you talk about, now its since we're not really transcending, we can't be 
getting any significant benefit.

I guess, eventually, it will be "no-one has ever become enlightened due to 
their TM practice..." A


Oh, wait, you've been saying that for years.

Do we have anything new to talk about on this topic, I wonder?


L.


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