--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <curtisdeltablues@...> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: > > > > > > These points are interesting to me. There are two places > > > to start that end in the same conclusion for me. > > > > > > 1. You believe that "chakra energy" experiences are real, > > > valuable and can be distinguished from the possible mental > > > disorders in a patient who has studied these concepts and > > > describes his or her symptoms using the vocabulary from > > > this belief system. > > > > > > 2. You don't believe that this category of experiences is > > > a sign of valuable "spiritual progress" and is a > > > manifestation of a mental disorder or perhaps for some > > > people a benign experience that we do not yet understand. > > > (Not accepting the often contradictory explanations found > > > in scriptures.) > > > > False dichotomy. > > I wasn't presenting them as a dichotomy but as a place to > start the discussion.
As a place to start the discussion, it's inadequate because it leaves out a major perspective. > There's a whole field of psychotherapy > > in which chakra experiences are used to help diagnose > > various disorders (not necessarily mental illness per > > se, but the kinds of emotional problems that most people > > seek psychotherapy for), and working with chakras is used > > as a treatment modality for the disorders, typically > > along with standard psychotherapy. > > So these are licensed mental health professionals who > are using this model in their practice or spiritual > people with psychotherapy training? I haven't checked their credentials, Curtis. I got the impression at least some of them were trained in psychotherapy and licensed and have chosen to use this approach in their practice. > I wonder about the ethics if the first OMG, that is hilarious. > and the training basis for the second. > > > The two systems are seen as complementary, in other words. > > The chakra experiences are assumed to be very real but can > > be signs of mental disorders if they're causing distress, > > but also of spiritual progress if they're not. > > I can understand that some people may believe this. I am > not sure they are speaking with the full authority of the > people who license mental health professionals. As is this. And how > does a person know that they are dealing with an expert > in the area of "chakras"? There is no standard of > knowledge to use as a reference. > > So I don't see how this solves the issues I brought up. I don't believe I suggested that it "solves" anything. Please don't put words in my mouth. We are still left winging it with an area that seems to have profound consequences in mental health. > > Do you have a person who from your search seems to represent the needed knowledge in both areas that you think would inspire confidence? I don't doubt that a search will lead to plenty of people making such claims. How could we evaluate such claims of this specialized knowledge?
