--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <curtisdeltablues@...> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > These points are interesting to me. There are two places > > > > > to start that end in the same conclusion for me. > > > > > > > > > > 1. You believe that "chakra energy" experiences are real, > > > > > valuable and can be distinguished from the possible mental > > > > > disorders in a patient who has studied these concepts and > > > > > describes his or her symptoms using the vocabulary from > > > > > this belief system. > > > > > > > > > > 2. You don't believe that this category of experiences is > > > > > a sign of valuable "spiritual progress" and is a > > > > > manifestation of a mental disorder or perhaps for some > > > > > people a benign experience that we do not yet understand. > > > > > (Not accepting the often contradictory explanations found > > > > > in scriptures.) > > > > > > > > False dichotomy. > > > > > > I wasn't presenting them as a dichotomy but as a place to > > > start the discussion. > > > > As a place to start the discussion, it's inadequate > > because it leaves out a major perspective. > > Thus the term "start". > > > > > > There's a whole field of psychotherapy > > > > in which chakra experiences are used to help diagnose > > > > various disorders (not necessarily mental illness per > > > > se, but the kinds of emotional problems that most people > > > > seek psychotherapy for), and working with chakras is used > > > > as a treatment modality for the disorders, typically > > > > along with standard psychotherapy. > > > > > > > So these are licensed mental health professionals who > > > are using this model in their practice or spiritual > > > people with psychotherapy training? > > > > I haven't checked their credentials, Curtis. I got the > > impression at least some of them were trained in > > psychotherapy and licensed and have chosen to use this > > approach in their practice. > > > > > I wonder about the ethics if the first > > > > OMG, that is hilarious. > > People whose trust by the public is based on their > credentials certified by the state as a mental health > authority adding in a field of speculation that has > no oversight or even standard definitions is a > violation of the ethical trust their position holds. > How you find this funny is beyond me.
It's funny because you don't know what the hell you're talking about. >From an article on the standard of care in psychotherapy and counseling (be good to read the introduction too, but the quoted paragraphs are specifically relevant here): ----- The standard of care is a particularly difficult issue in psychotherapy, as there are hundreds of different orientations and approaches to treatment (Lambert, 1991). Each is based on a different theoretical orientation, a different methodology, philosophy, belief system and even worldview. Beyond the agreements of do not harm, and do not have sex with current clients, and always respect clients' dignity, autonomy and privacy, there is no consensus on how to intervene, help or heal. For example there is no one standard, or method or way for the treatment of anxiety. Psychoanalysis, cognitive- behavioral, existential, biologically based psychiatry, Gestalt and pastoral counseling all define, explain and treat the anxiety in very different terms. Not one of them will follow the others' standards.... The "respected minority" doctrine also applies to new techniques, which as yet do not have well established scientific or research support. This provision allows for new or "experimental" psychotherapeutic techniques to be carefully, cautiously and ethically employed even though the theories and/or practices are still being developed and tested. Most successful and effective techniques started out as "experimental or "alternative" techniques prior to being tested, validated, recognized, and employed on a broad scale.... ----- http://www.zurinstitute.com/standardofcaretherapy.html It's simply not the case that state mental health authorities say you can do A, B, C, and D kinds of therapy, but not W, X, Y, and Z. It's just not an ethics issue which approach a therapist uses. As long as the basics--"do not harm, and do not have sex with current clients, and always respect clients' dignity, autonomy and privacy"--are observed, you get to choose your own approach; you aren't required to pick from a list of state-approved therapies.
