--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@...> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <curtisdeltablues@> > wrote: > > > > These points are interesting to me. There are two places > > to start that end in the same conclusion for me. > > > > 1. You believe that "chakra energy" experiences are real, > > valuable and can be distinguished from the possible mental > > disorders in a patient who has studied these concepts and > > describes his or her symptoms using the vocabulary from > > this belief system. > > > > 2. You don't believe that this category of experiences is > > a sign of valuable "spiritual progress" and is a > > manifestation of a mental disorder or perhaps for some > > people a benign experience that we do not yet understand. > > (Not accepting the often contradictory explanations found > > in scriptures.) > > False dichotomy.
I wasn't presenting them as a dichotomy but as a place to start the discussion. There's a whole field of psychotherapy > in which chakra experiences are used to help diagnose > various disorders (not necessarily mental illness per > se, but the kinds of emotional problems that most people > seek psychotherapy for), and working with chakras is used > as a treatment modality for the disorders, typically > along with standard psychotherapy. So these are licensed mental health professionals who are using this model in their practice or spiritual people with psychotherapy training? I wonder about the ethics if the first and the training basis for the second. > > The two systems are seen as complementary, in other words. > The chakra experiences are assumed to be very real but can > be signs of mental disorders if they're causing distress, > but also of spiritual progress if they're not. I can understand that some people may believe this. I am not sure they are speaking with the full authority of the people who license mental health professionals. And how does a person know that they are dealing with an expert in the area of "chakras"? There is no standard of knowledge to use as a reference. So I don't see how this solves the issues I brought up. We are still left winging it with an area that seems to have profound consequences in mental health. Do you have a person who from your search seems to represent the needed knowledge in both areas that you think would inspire confidence? I don't doubt that a search will lead to plenty of people making such claims. How could we evaluate such claims of this specialized knowledge? > > You might want to do a search: +yoga +psychotherapy. >