Vaj, you forgot to add, "...and because it happened as a result of TM, it 
cannot possibly be true in any way, shape or form...", but we heard it anyway, 
so no worries. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajradhatu@...> wrote:
>
> 
> On May 2, 2011, at 3:41 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
> 
> > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] 
> > On Behalf Of Bhairitu
> > Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 2:18 PM
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An Example of Cosmic Consciousness
> >  
> > Logically CC should not be a binary experience. IOW, a switch goes on 
> > and you're there. It would be gradual. For instance someone noticing, 
> > as they did years ago, that they seemed to no longer come "out" of 
> > meditation and that the experience of the transcendence was there along 
> > in activity. It might be a mild experience of it but it *is* there. 
> > And more particularly over time should grow. So some of these things 
> > are "flash" experiences or a spike in the experience but I wouldn't say 
> > they "popped into CC". They were already there.
> > 
> > TM'ers seem to be in this mode that only a few achieve enlightenment but 
> > I found in India people expected folks practicing sadhana to get there 
> > and it was not that uncommon.
> >  
> > In my experience talking to people, some experience a clear demarcation, 
> > but most ooze into it. You can get wet getting caught in a sudden downpour, 
> > or you can get wet walking in a heavy mist. Either way you're wet, but in 
> > the latter case, you can't really say when it happened.
> 
> Then they might be experiencing growing awareness or just relaxation, but it 
> very likely not turiyatita. The transition to CC or turiyatita, at least the 
> way yogis have been experiencing it for thousands of years is described as a 
> "violent digestion". Not "It seemed so delicate, fragile, almost shy. I did 
> not expect it to last." While poetically beautiful and it's nice to hear 
> people experiencing relaxation and enjoyment, it's also important not to jump 
> to exaggerations, flights of quiet fancy or beliefs one's merely acquired and 
> grafted onto obsessions.
>


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