Vaj, you forgot to add, "...and because it happened as a result of TM, it cannot possibly be true in any way, shape or form...", but we heard it anyway, so no worries.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajradhatu@...> wrote: > > > On May 2, 2011, at 3:41 PM, Rick Archer wrote: > > > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] > > On Behalf Of Bhairitu > > Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 2:18 PM > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An Example of Cosmic Consciousness > > > > Logically CC should not be a binary experience. IOW, a switch goes on > > and you're there. It would be gradual. For instance someone noticing, > > as they did years ago, that they seemed to no longer come "out" of > > meditation and that the experience of the transcendence was there along > > in activity. It might be a mild experience of it but it *is* there. > > And more particularly over time should grow. So some of these things > > are "flash" experiences or a spike in the experience but I wouldn't say > > they "popped into CC". They were already there. > > > > TM'ers seem to be in this mode that only a few achieve enlightenment but > > I found in India people expected folks practicing sadhana to get there > > and it was not that uncommon. > > > > In my experience talking to people, some experience a clear demarcation, > > but most ooze into it. You can get wet getting caught in a sudden downpour, > > or you can get wet walking in a heavy mist. Either way you're wet, but in > > the latter case, you can't really say when it happened. > > Then they might be experiencing growing awareness or just relaxation, but it > very likely not turiyatita. The transition to CC or turiyatita, at least the > way yogis have been experiencing it for thousands of years is described as a > "violent digestion". Not "It seemed so delicate, fragile, almost shy. I did > not expect it to last." While poetically beautiful and it's nice to hear > people experiencing relaxation and enjoyment, it's also important not to jump > to exaggerations, flights of quiet fancy or beliefs one's merely acquired and > grafted onto obsessions. >