--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@...> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <curtisdeltablues@> 
> wrote:
> <snip>
> > Combined with holding Maharishi as a teacher so special
> > we should never goof on him or point out his failings
> > with us
> 
> That isn't what he said. Here's what he said:
> 
> "I think you could write about MMY as far less than
> perfect, as many on here do, without the cheap shots."
> 
> Ooopsie. That pretty much cancels out a good portion
> of your indictment of Jim.

Actually Jim has a long history of attacking me personally for saying things 
about Maharishi.  Although he made that statement his many examples of going 
after me after I have said something he doesn't like pretty much cancels out 
your point.

> 
> I might as well stick in my response to your demand
> for an example of one of your cheap shots:
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <curtisdeltablues@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > So what do you consider a cheap shot that I
> > have taken at Maharishi?  I can't think of
> > anything I have said about him that I didn't
> > sincerely mean. My shots are carefully
> > considered and not cheap at all.
> 
> Well, those are some interesting definitions of
> "cheap shot," especially the first. I've not
> encountered "cheap shot" used in either of those
> senses, i.e., not sincerely meant or carefully
> considered.
> 
> Here's a recent remark of yours that qualifies as
> a cheap shot in my book:
> 
> "Then after Unity you have leisha vidya which I
> suspect was one of his personal excuses for
> banging groupies."

Then you have missed a key ingredient of what makes a shot cheap, its 
unfairness.  In this case we both have adequate documentation that this was 
precisely the behavior he did engage in.  And my speculation that this may have 
been some of his rationalization is probably not far off.
> 
> One of the hallmarks of the cheap shot is that it's
> a gratuitously nasty remark that makes no 
> contribution to the context into which it's been
> shoehorned, as was the case here.

It contributed to the context of my understanding of the term and how it might 
be employed by Gurus to justify behavior.  It was not gratuitous to me and I 
was the writer.

> 
> Do yourself a favor and don't try to "justify" that
> one. Just know that when we say you take cheap shots
> at MMY, that's the kind of thing we mean.

My objection with Jim is that when I say something about Maharishi, he takes a 
personal cheap shot at me.  Aligning yourself with this behavior does not speak 
well of you. 

Maharishi is a dead guy.  There is not "shot" to take that affects him.  When 
people here take opinions of him personally it reveals poor intellectual 
boundaries. 

Your posturing of virtue would be much more effective if you spoke out against 
Jim's cheap shots at actual living people here.  

But you don't.   So I can only conclude that when he ridicules people for their 
lack of the self realization he believes he is so full of, you are down with 
that.   


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