MIU anti-saint? WTF! Let's recap the "teaching". All humans have an innate capacity to reach the ground of all being, the home of all the laws of nature, the source of thought, the Self in a simple natural, innocent way. Through repeated exposure to this level of life alternated by activity consisting of speaking in a soft lilting voice and eating mountains of celebration cake you stabilize this state of consciousness into a permanent state where you are functioning according to all the laws spontaneously due to the need of the time or in accordance with the dictates of movement lawyers.
But if you claim to have gotten there some other way than TM then you are to be shunned? Even if you claim to have gotten there through TM you can't put out a shingle that says "I know some stuff you really aught to know, but Maharishi didn't have time to lay on us" you are gunna get in trouuuuuuble. Sometimes I wonder if the movement believes its own rap. This suspicion of any other system based on the implied arrogance of TM being the best, highest, whateverest technique was totally pervasive when I taught. We could study Kant or Hegel's impenetrable speculations about the nature of reality, but if you slipped into a Muktananda lecture, you could get in some serious shit. But now that people have decades of experience, and if Batgap interviews are to be believed, are popping into "awakened" states right and left, MIU people need to continue this policy of viewing anyone claiming a higher state as a threat to purity? Like little idiot children, the domers can't be trusted to not become "confused" by these other teachings. They can't be trusted to listen to another POV and integrate it into SCI like every other discipline at MIU because the people are too close to Maharishi's own viewpoint of the world? They are too unethical to live by a TM and TM sidis in the dome rule? They can't be trusted? Is the reason that it is OK to read the Bible because Jesus is dead, because that isn't what Christians believe. They believe he rose again so he might be able to communicate with you through the Holy Spirit (impregnated Mary, totally hung) and confuse the poor half-wits who have been studying Maharishi's teaching for the last half century. (more drivel after Tart's quote) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain <no_reply@...> wrote:> > Is that parallel to telling ones spouse "our marriage vows will be stronger > if I get the 'blessings' of another lover or two"? Here is where this breaks down for me. Marriage is a two way street. If my lover lived in say, Vlodrop, and our whole marriage consisted of getting postcards full of honey-do lists every few weeks, I would not be unreasonable to get on Match.com and lay down some lines about how your dream is to walk on the beach with your wife in one hand, your pink Uggs shod daughter in the other and a golden retriever named Jyoti bounding in front of you. And then start dating your ass off till you found one chick who you could have a real relationship with, you know actually talk to (bone) share meaningful perspectives (bone) serve as a support in the challenging reality TV show of life (bone. And of course you could actually bone her instead of that half-baked SKYPE version you have been getting by on. TM is a POV, a teaching. There is nothing universal about it or the states it claims to induce. If there was a universal state of enlightenment reached by TMers (or others for that matter) then we wouldn't hear about signs like this spreading fear and threats supporting brand loyalty. I was in a traditional martial arts Jiu-jitsu dojo when the whole Gracie Jiu-jitsu (proven by actually fighting in the UFC octagon) came out. Our teacher realized many people were defecting to other schools to learn the techniques that were sweeping the martial arts world. He gave us this same kind of rap talking about loyalty and commitment to his school and how these people where betraying him. HE told us that if he heard we had gone to another school he would terminate our contract for instruction. It was an economically based, self-serving bunch of crap. I realized that if in fact he did know all about Gracie techniques he could show us what they were and why he had chosen to go another way. But he couldn't. He was just thinking of lost students and his own self-interest while invoking inappropriate ideals like loyalty. So I left his school where I had done quite well and joined a Gracie school where I experienced months of getting my butt handed to me by students with much less training than I had. But they had gotten the right training, it was obvious. Now the Gracie techniques have revolutionized mixed martial arts and everyone studies them. If TM was truly the Gracie Jiu-jitsu of yoga then there wouldn't be a need for all this isolation and fear of other teachers. If Maharishi's students were getting everything they needed, then there would be no harm in listening to another brother or sister on the path describe how they see it. But self-proclaimed enlightened people are not bothers and sisters, they are competing franchises. Spirituality schools have two purposes, recruitment and fundraising. Threatening students about seeing other teachers goes against these goals. It does not go against the "for show goal" of gaining profound knowledge of life. This sign confirms that MIU is admitting what the purpose of the domes is. And how much of a lack of trust they have in their own students. Students who by now really ought to be exhibiting some of the promised benefits like being smart enough to know where to draw their own lines concerning other teachers. You know like a grown-up. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain <no_reply@...> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <rick@> wrote: > > > > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] > > On Behalf Of jpgillam > > Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 9:59 AM > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > <mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com> , "Rick Archer" wrote: > > > > > > > > I think it's a pity that the movement continues to sabotage > > > > its own interests by behaving like a blinking cult. > > > > Many of us think the TM organization's prime interest is to > > teach TM, but that's a mistake on our part. The TM organization's > > prime interest is to maintain the purity of the teaching. That's why > > it bans cross-pollination with other teachings. > > > > Behaving like a cult does not interfere with, and may actually > > promote, the maintenance of the teaching in the form Maharishi > > transmitted it. > > > > Maharishi used to say "the purity of the teaching depends upon the purity of > > the teachers". If that's true, the teaching was never entirely pure, but it > > might be made more pure if the teachers got the blessings of a saint or two. > > > > Is that parallel to telling ones spouse "our marriage vows will be stronger > if I get the 'blessings' of another lover or two"? > > There appear to be a couple of approaches: smorgasbord and chef' special. In > the first, one creates one own meal, as one thinks best suits them. Another > is to trust the chef and say, "Serve me what your think is the best -- you > are the chef." In the latter, one doesn't typically say -- but I want to get > a side order from the chef down the street. > > Both the smorgasbord and chef special approaches may be useful -- one for > some, the other for others. But asking for side dishes from another chef when > asking the chef's special may not instill the highest devotion and attention > from the chef to prepare his utmost best for you. He may wait until you are a > serious diner. >