--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <noozguru@...> wrote: > > On 08/04/2011 03:51 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu<noozguru@> wrote: > >> On 08/04/2011 10:26 AM, raunchydog wrote: > >>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu<noozguru@> wrote: > >>>> On 08/03/2011 06:49 PM, Rick Archer wrote: > >>>>> From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > >>>>> [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Denise Evans > >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 7:43 PM > >>>>> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > >>>>> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I'm a new meditator > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> There are many different methods for "meditation". TM is a technique > >>>>> taught by Maharishi who was a Hindu. Nothing against it, as I haven't > >>>>> done it or paid to learn it, but it is based on an interpretation of > >>>>> Hinduism possibly somewhat unique to Maharishi from what I've gleaned > >>>>> from posts on these website. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> There are many ways to meditate that are free and published. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> But I think itâs noteworthy how deep her meditation is right off the > >>>>> bat. I think that says something about the efficacy of TM. > >>>>> > >>>> It says something about the efficacy of meditation. We don't know what > >>>> would have happened if she would have tried a different form of > >>>> meditation. It may have worked the same. > >>>> > >>> Or not. > >> Yup, other techniques may work better and definitely safer. > >> > > Your evidence for this is...? > > > > > > L. > > My experience and what Indian traditions have found down throughout the > centuries. I used to check people who should not have learned TM. I took > it that the teacher was so hard up for money they ignored the rules > about teaching people with certain problems. I wound up checking some > psychotics.
Are you suggesting that psychotics are never taught by other meditation teachers? "Kundalini syndrome" is a proposed DSM term used to describe super-heavy unstressing found in some who practice certain kinds of meditation techniques. TM wasn't mentioned as one of those practices, at least by name, IIRC. In fact, research on TM is used to justify the new proposal in the DSM that practitioners of meditation who report derealization but who otherwise have no symptoms, shouldn't be counted as being mentally unhealthy. > > The mantra shastra on this is that agni mantras are not for the public > and yet they are taught in TM. And MMY started out teaching shanti > mantras which ARE safe. But then so did every other guru. Guess he > wanted to be different. The first technique is just a "warm up" since > the second is a more traditional mantra though an agni mantra. > Eh, MMY believed differently. In fact, he insisted that his was the proper interpretation, but time will tell. > Not to worry though. The TMO will have it's head in the clouds as the > economy collapses and never adjust their prices. Hence no one except > those with money to throw away will learn. > Other than the kids learning via the David Lynch Foundation, you mean? Sounds to me like someone is in denial here, and it isn't necessarily the True Believers... L.
