Ravi: Curtis, How can we judge something without understanding the time, place, context and the people that were being addressed to?
ME: I do, it was an ancient system of medicine that was the best they could do then. Now we can do better. Not perfect. But better. They didn't understand the circulation of blood then. They thought the heart functioned as we now understand our brain functions. We straightened that out. That is progress in understanding. R: May be crocodile semen was a metaphor, a joke perhaps that you were out of your fucking mind that there could be a medicine for that ailment and others around had a big belly laugh. ME: Read the book, it is literal. Your challenge should have been, maybe there really is something in he big Croc's love juice that we haven't tested. Then you would have had me dead to rights! Ravi: Your distrust of anything and everything Eastern borders on paranoia sometimes, ME: Would it help to know that any medical advice from that era from any country is treated with the same level of skepticism? To their credit they got the usefulness of leaches and maggots right, they just used them wrong. I really can't apologize for believing in human progress in the field of medicine. Ravi: may be a lot happened during your time in the TM cult that perhaps explains it ME: No it is just understanding how knowledge grows in science. It is not an indictment to them for not knowing what we know now. And I am open to the idea that there is much undiscovered in ancient systems of medicine once we test them today. I am just not into taking them at face value as if they knew much more then than we do now. Ravi: but it is one of the things that bothers me personally, coming as it from a person who otherwise comes across as being very open-minded and intelligent. ME: Sorry for the first part and thanks for the second part. If it is any consolation I just made the best idly and uttapam from scratch you have ever had using a sourdough culture from Africa to make them sour perfectly. I think I could convince you that I am not an Indian culture hater in one meal, I promise you. The deal in the movement is that they elevated Indian culture to being the one most in tune with nature's laws and took their scriptures, even the medical ones as God revealed truth. Rejecting that view doesn't mean that I can't enjoy and appreciate them on another level. And remember, I am the one who took the time to seriously read them. I hope you do someday and get back to me with your impressions of the value of applying the knowledge today. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi" <raviyogi@...> wrote: > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <curtisdeltablues@> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <noozguru@> wrote: > > > > > As my buddy on my TM Sidhis course said, "these people have > > > overstimulated intellects." Years later I found out why and that is > > > because agni mantras like Saraswati mantras will over stimulate the > > > intellect unless balancing measures are taken. People also become more > > > vata practicing them and will tend to ramble when they write. > > > > > > Isn't it good enough that you just don't dig what we are serving up? Not > > your cup of tea. This attempt to make it into a pathology just makes you > > look like you can't get beyond your own personal preferences and understand > > that other people are interested in different things. > > > > And the ancient texts that invented the thoery you are proposing here are > > very long, I've read both the Charaka and Shushruta Samhitas. Lots of > > words, pages of them. Did Charak suffer from this malady you describe? And > > don't even try the angle that he was not wordy, the dude extolled the > > benefits of his quackery in glowing flowery terms like adjectives on parade. > > > > Did you know that mentally ill people might be possessed not only by a > > demon, but by a god? In this case you need to do a puja to the god rather > > than an exorcism. My only problem is that they recommend crocodile semen > > as medicine but fail to describe the process for how to collect it? I'm > > thinking you need to dress up as on of those sexy crocs you see in Disney > > movies with the tutu and the long eyelashes. > > > > > Curtis, How can we judge something without understanding the time, place, > context and the people that were being addressed to? May be crocodile semen > was a metaphor, a joke perhaps that you were out of your fucking mind that > there could be a medicine for that ailment and others around had a big belly > laugh. > > Your distrust of anything and everything Eastern borders on paranoia > sometimes, may be a lot happened during your time in the TM cult that perhaps > explains it but it is one of the things that bothers me personally, coming as > it from a person who otherwise comes across as being very open-minded and > intelligent. > > > > > > > I also detect that anyone that writes pages of text here is vata > > > imbalanced. That is a typical trait and results in someone living in > > > their own cerebral world. This is something I took from MMY's > > > discussion on the intellect and observed with intellectuals I met since. > > > > You sure got a fancy name for being judgmental son. Robin and I are > > writing about what interests us using as many words as it takes. I don't > > have to read into your preference to hit delete to mean that there is > > something wrong with you. > > > > You are trying to sell your preference as if we have a problem. I wonder > > what mantra causes that? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > FYI, just to remind you that hard coded line returns went out of style > > > in the 1980s. Today's email clients word wrap fine. Your posts when > > > viewed on a mobile email client don't wrap well not to mention how the > > > FFL web interface may look on phones and tablets. Leave it up to the > > > software. > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/19/2011 10:00 AM, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine<salsunshine@> wrote: > > > >> On Oct 19, 2011, at 3:06 AM, turquoiseb wrote: > > > >> > > > >>> I, too, thank Curtis for his explanation. I do not > > > >>> share his fascination with either the people he gets > > > >>> into long-winded discussions with, or with any of > > > >>> their ideas, but it's probably good that someone does. > > > >>> > > > >>> As much as I love Curtis, sometimes I see him as the > > > >>> Patron Saint Of The Terminally Self Important. > > > >> I've never understood why Curtis gets into these > > > >> insane drama-fests either. But I suppose it fulfills > > > >> some need. > > > > I'm going to reply to this a second time, less > > > > flippantly this time, because I think your ques- > > > > tion is a good one, and I might have some insight > > > > into it. > > > > > > > > In my first forays onto TM-related spiritual chat > > > > groups, I entered into many, many, far too many > > > > long, insane drama-fests myself. *At the time*, > > > > it seemed like fun to me, a kind of intellectual > > > > sparring, a way to test one's ever-changing > > > > theories of How It All Works against other > > > > people. I used to get into equally-long and > > > > equally-tedious discussions with Judy, and with > > > > Lawson, and with others back on a.m.t. And, at > > > > the time, it was FUN. > > > > > > > > > > As my buddy on my TM Sidhis course said, "these people have > > > overstimulated intellects." Years later I found out why and that is > > > because agni mantras like Saraswati mantras will over stimulate the > > > intellect unless balancing measures are taken. People also become more > > > vata practicing them and will tend to ramble when they write. > > > > > > I also detect that anyone that writes pages of text here is vata > > > imbalanced. That is a typical trait and results in someone living in > > > their own cerebral world. This is something I took from MMY's > > > discussion on the intellect and observed with intellectuals I met since. > > > > > > FYI, just to remind you that hard coded line returns went out of style > > > in the 1980s. Today's email clients word wrap fine. Your posts when > > > viewed on a mobile email client don't wrap well not to mention how the > > > FFL web interface may look on phones and tablets. Leave it up to the > > > software. > > > > > >
