--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajradhatu@...> wrote: > > Spoiled mantras > > H.H. Jagadguru Swami Swaroopananda, Shankaracharya of Jyotir Math > interviewed by David Sieveking > > Translator: When he did the TM course of Mahesh Yogi he was asked to > pay $2500. He was then seated in front of Gurudev's photo and given a > mantra. He wishes to know Shankaracharyaji's thoughts on this... > > Tell him your mantra... > > David: Shring. > > Translator: Shring? > > David: Shring...they say it is the meaningless word but I found out > that it invokes... > > > Translator: How do you spell it? > David: I'll write it for you... > > 2nd translator: He has also been told that the mantra has no meaning > and that he simply has to recite it [mentally]. > > HH Swarupananda: This is not a mantra. Had it been Shrim i.e. S-H-R-I- > M, then it would have been a mantra.
Sorry, but that seems like rubbish to me. IMO, the basic element of that category of biija mantras seems to be 'agni' read backwards: 'inga'. If the first/final a-sound is only implied, like in 'agni' (agniH/agnim/agninaa, etc) for some sandhi positions,([a]gni/ing[a]), it might make that basic element even more effective?? :o > Translator: He was given this mantra in front of Gurudev`s photo. So > he wants to know whether this has been the tradition from long time ago? > > HH Swarupananda: Mahesh Yogi was not a brahnman and hence did not > have the right to give anybody any mantra's hence he would place the > Gurudev's picture so as to symbolise that the mantra was being given > through Gurudev. > > The tradition is such that the mantra is a very private and secretive > conversation between a Guru and a disciple. It is said that when it > goes in 6 ears the mantra's powers are lost...it has to remain in > between the two ears of the Guru and the two ears of the Shishya or > disciple any other person is not to be party to it. > > 2nd translator: First of all this mantra was not a mantra. The > procedure for giving it was a guru can give it to the shishya but as > Maharishi was not a brahman maybe he was keeping a picture of Gurudev > to give the mantra...but according to tradition it has to be between > the 2 ears of yours and the two ears of Guru, if it goes to six ears > [i.e. via a TM teacher] then its a spoiled mantra. > > > Jai Guru Dev >