Peter wrote: >--- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj >><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >>>On Aug 14, 2005, at 11:21 AM, Bhairitu wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>Any other >>>>guru would be able to clearly delineate the >>>> >>>> >>historical origins of a >> >> >>>>teaching. If they can't then they are suspect. >>>> >>>> >>>Thank you. I've said this over and over. Many just >>> >>> >>don't get it but >>it >> >> >>>really important to know the where's and how's of >>> >>> >>your transmissions. >> >> >>>TM is one of the few that do not tell you really >>> >>> >>any details. In fact >> >> >>>it appears M. has pretty much hidden his childhood >>> >>> >>from history. >>Almost >> >> >>>every other group, from Swami Rama to SYDA to >>> >>> >>Yogananda all give >> >> >>>detailed histories. >>> >>> >>So where's the detailed history of Jesus' childhood? >>What about >>Gurudev's? >> >> > >Hey sparaig, we're on the same side of the fence on >this one. All this crap about lineages is absurd. It's >all mental masturbation to puff your spiritual ego up. >The value of a teaching has nothing to do with >lineages and who's guru's guru's guru had the biggest >"dick," but the direct impact that teaching has on >your own Realization. Nothing else matters. You only >know the value of a teaching if you follow it for some >time and DIRECTLY experience what it does. Titles are >for spiritual materialists (obviously the lowest form >of life on the planet ;-). > > > > Lineages or traditions are important. Meditation is like wine, you can get a buzz from "two buck chuck" but you will get a great experience from a $50 award winning Cabernet and a rare experience from a vintage $600 Bordeaux. As each guru practices a set of mantras and passes them on to their shishyas they become more and more powerful. So those traditions with a long line have the most powerful techniques. You can learn a mantra from a book but it will be tremendously weak even compared with getting it from someone who has learned it from a guru even if that lineage is short. The caveat the Maharishi uses is to have the initiator perform a puja before each instruction. That charges the initiator temporarily with shakti and empowers the mantra. That's in addition to the shakti the initiator already has.
Also note that if you have been practicing meditation for some time and try a mantra out of a book it is not the same as someone who has never practiced meditation trying a mantra out of a book. Your shakti from your meditation will empower the book mantra. It just won't be as strong as when you receive a mantra from a guru. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
