--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba <no_reply@...> wrote: > The "strip clubs," are called Gentlemen's clubs in the now a days.
They always been called Gentleman's Clubs as far as I can remember. If you feel more comfortable referring to them in that way, then great. Everytime I went to one they had women taking off their clothes, in a style that appeared to me to be stripping. But perhaps you see that as Gentlemanly behavior. Oh, and by the way. I am not ashamed of the times I went to strip clubs. > Long time since you have read a sign or maybe just have not been out of the corn fields? > There are lots of meth house's in those small towns...maybe the wind is bringing some of the residue to your neck of the crop circles? : ) > > BTW, didn't you send me an invite to the, ya know? ; ) > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" steve.sundur@ wrote: > > > > > > Excellent push back Curtis. I feel much better. That type of spin put > > on by Judy and some others cannot be allowed to go uncontested. I simply > > cannot get dialed in to the justification that Judy (in particular) and > > others feel they need to provide to Ravi. I am in total agreement with > > your analysis. Of course Ravi interacted with that 19 year old as he > > described. And you know what, who cares. > > > > I did not view it as debauchery. I think he has a tremendous amount of > > sexual energy just as he describes. But like you, I don't for a moment > > believe his nonsense about he is also naturally celibate, or some such > > thing. A 19 year old is of legal age. He may have something she wants > > and she something he wants. So what. Really strange to see him go into > > hyper denial mode. Talk about unhinged. > > > > But I digress. Let me mention something else I observed since we're > > going into detail here. Did you notice how Ravi describes strip clubs > > as "Gentleman Clubs". Hell, I've gone to plenty of strip clubs in my > > day, but never did I call them Gentleman Clubs. And my motivation in > > going to them was always the same. To get a sexual hit of some sort. > > > > Really struck me as lame, and in denial to refer to them as Gentleman > > Clubs. > > > > I'm glad you care enough to come back with a very elegant counter to > > what else has been presented here. > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: > > > > > > -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" jstein@ wrote: > > > > > > Snipped the dancing routine, sooo Nancy Grace in the groaning 3 inch > > heels. But this is the good part cuz her refusal to accept that she has > > been called out was just predictable. > > > > > > Here is where I start hearing the music from the start of the twilight > > zone in my head. > > > > > > > It's amazing how Curtis engineered all this to make > > > > himself appear to be the totally blameless victim by a > > > > series of moves that's so convoluted nobody gets what > > > > he's done except those he's done it *to*. And not for > > > > the first time, either. > > > > > > > > That's one thing at which he's better than anyone here. > > > > > > And this is not the first time you have accused me of such a bizarre > > thing. And on a public board no less where we all read all the posts if > > we want to. And I am able to hide my deviousness from everyone but Judy, > > how can that be? Oh I know, it has to do with her inflated sense of her > > perceptive powers to detect evil, beyond all other posters reading the > > same posts. > > > > > > Let me defend myself from this twisted claim of special powers of > > deceit in plan sight. > > > > > > Ravi was spinning a tale of how he has no sexual desire from his self > > proclaimed "whatever" state for the umpteenth time, while describing the > > old guy in the club behavior I get to see on a regular basis during > > performances where alcohol is served. The only people I hear talking > > about having no sexual desire uninvited, and relevant to nothing that > > applies to us, are preachers running a "I'm too special for human > > feelings" like Jerry Falwell. In the end they are usually revealed to be > > hypocrites who were compelled to make their denials because they are > > selling a story about themselves. Like Ravi is. And I would have just > > let it pass but he also called me dishonest for the millionth time with > > zero evidence. So I commented on how he appeared to me. > > > > > > Then Ravi claimed that he wasn't really buying drinks for an underage > > girl which was his original story. I am guessing that he ended up > > looking a bit loseresque getting worked by a Tom Sawyer in hot pants and > > a tank top. So he tried to cover his tracks but once I smelled a rat I > > didn't buy his denial. I think he really did go to a club and have a > > young girl work him for free drinks before telling him she needed to go > > to the bathroom and run out of the club giggling with her friends full > > of Ravi financed liquor. So he flew off the handle and called me names, > > some of which are out of line so I let him know I felt that way. I tried > > to explain to him the deeper context of his slurs and how they really > > don't belong here. Labeling someone's behavior as desperate or his > > denials of having human feelings like the rest of us is not the same > > thing as being called a retard, (the N word of the disabled community) > > or an unhinged assault being called someone's bitch, which among men is > > rarely used face to face because it is an invitation to fight. Online it > > is extreme trollish behavior. Then he doubled down again and lied about > > why I left the movement. > > > > > > Then Judy joined in as if his tirade were just another cute thing the > > pool boy does as he cleans her pool as she sips vodka enhanced ice tea > > lemonades enjoying the view. Kiss kiss Ravi, you are so hot! See how it > > works Ravi, she would be buying YOU drinks in a bar, does it all make > > sense now why the hot young thing slipped out the back door while you > > found out the number she gave you was fake? > > > > > > I was reminded of her posturing against what she considered unfair > > posts and how she castigated me for not stepping in to scold other > > posters who attack her. I remember the rash of shit she has flung my way > > concerning me not busyboding myself about what other people say to her. > > I realized that she was really in the exact situation where if she has > > an ounce of the integrity and ethical values she bloviates around here > > like it is her special badge of honor, she would say in her I love hot > > Ravi manor, "hey Ravi, perhaps you could turn it down a notch, some of > > us read here." But no. > > > > > > And I frankly don't care if she didn't, and don't need her to come to > > my aid for a mouthy dude who calls other men names while out of their > > reach. But I notice the hypocrisy and I called her on it and asking her > > to get off my case for doing the exact same thing, choosing my battles > > here, and letting us fight our own. And without the rash of hypocritical > > shit, that would be a reasonable position that I endorse here. > > > > > > But then she chose to enter the Twilight Zone to try to slip out of > > getting called on bullshit. It was me who made Ravi use derogatory terms > > for mentally disabled people, lie about why I left the movement, and lay > > into a demeaning tirade. > > > > > > One that other posters noticed was over the trollish line. > > > > > > But not Judy. Judy saw secret Curtis deviousness at work orchestrating > > Ravi's bad behavior from his secret lair. And that defending myself from > > an unwarranted meltdown attack is because I've been fighting a computer > > virus and it has unhinged me. > > > > > > And only she can see it, but all you other dimwits who read these > > posts are unable to penetrate my devious ways. > > > > > > Out of all of this I am looking forward to a 2012 with zero "you need > > to scold other people for things they say to me" posts. > > > > > > Zero. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan" <wayback71@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan" <wayback71@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > <snip> > > > > > > > > > > > > I still am waiting to hear from you: do you think > > > > > > > > > > > > it is ok for Ravi to have told that nasty personal > > > > > > > > > > > > lie about Curtis? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See if you can rephrase your question so it's not > > > > > > > > > > > offensive and I'll consider answering it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you think it is ok for Ravi to have told that > > > > > > > > > > particular lie about Curtis's leaving the TM movement? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let's see, "Does Judy think it's OK to tell lies?" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nope, still offensive. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Uh, I asked if you think it is ok if Ravi told a Particular > > > > > > > > lie in a Particular instance? Not a general statement about > > > > > > > > how you feel about lying in general (Does Judy think it is > > OK > > > > > > > > to tell lies?). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So you're unsure of whether a negative response to "Does > > > > > > > Judy think it's OK to tell lies?" would cover all lies. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I see. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A bit of difference, as you well know and would be quite > > > > > > > > quick to point out in others. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not if I were paying attention and wanted to be fair. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But in your dodging around and unwillingness to answer > > > > > > > > I got my answer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can manufacture whatever answers and degree of > > > > > > > willingness suit your agenda, Susan. They don't have to > > > > > > > have anything to do with reality. > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey, whatever. I don't want to hide behind analysis of > > > > > > details and words. Just simple responses would have been > > > > > > enough for me. I am done with this discussion, no interest left. > > > > > > > > > > If one reads the words carefully, Judy is correct to not > > > > > wishing to answer the questions as they were written. It > > > > > was spin. Who wants to answer spin? > > > > > > > > Not only was it spin, the whole basis for the question was > > > > disingenuous, since Susan is well aware I'm against lying. > > > > But she wanted to hide behind the pretense that there was > > > > some uncertainty on that point. > > > > > > > > There were any number of questions she *could* have asked > > > > that would have cleared up what she genuinely didn't > > > > understand. Even if she didn't agree, at least she would > > > > have known what she was disagreeing *with*. > > > > > > > > It's amazing how Curtis engineered all this to make > > > > himself appear to be the totally blameless victim by a > > > > series of moves that's so convoluted nobody gets what > > > > he's done except those he's done it *to*. And not for > > > > the first time, either. > > > > > > > > That's one thing at which he's better than anyone here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just saying. > > > > > Happy New Year to us all! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >