--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba <no_reply@...> wrote:
> The "strip clubs," are called Gentlemen's clubs in the now a days.

They always been called Gentleman's Clubs as far as I can remember.  If
you feel more comfortable referring to them in that way, then great.
Everytime I went to one they had women taking off their clothes, in a
style that appeared to me to be stripping.  But perhaps you see that as
Gentlemanly behavior.  Oh, and by the way.  I am not ashamed of the
times I went to strip clubs.


> Long time since you have read a sign or maybe just have not been out
of the corn fields?
> There are lots of meth house's in those small towns...maybe the wind
is bringing some of the residue to your neck of the crop circles? : )
>
> BTW, didn't you send me an invite to the, ya know? ; )
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" steve.sundur@
wrote:
> >
> >
> > Excellent push back Curtis. I feel much better. That type of spin
put
> > on by Judy and some others cannot be allowed to go uncontested. I
simply
> > cannot get dialed in to the justification that Judy (in particular)
and
> > others feel they need to provide to Ravi. I am in total agreement
with
> > your analysis. Of course Ravi interacted with that 19 year old as he
> > described. And you know what, who cares.
> >
> > I did not view it as debauchery. I think he has a tremendous amount
of
> > sexual energy just as he describes. But like you, I don't for a
moment
> > believe his nonsense about he is also naturally celibate, or some
such
> > thing. A 19 year old is of legal age. He may have something she
wants
> > and she something he wants. So what. Really strange to see him go
into
> > hyper denial mode. Talk about unhinged.
> >
> > But I digress. Let me mention something else I observed since we're
> > going into detail here. Did you notice how Ravi describes strip
clubs
> > as "Gentleman Clubs". Hell, I've gone to plenty of strip clubs in my
> > day, but never did I call them Gentleman Clubs. And my motivation in
> > going to them was always the same. To get a sexual hit of some sort.
> >
> > Really struck me as lame, and in denial to refer to them as
Gentleman
> > Clubs.
> >
> > I'm glad you care enough to come back with a very elegant counter to
> > what else has been presented here.
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
> > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote:
> > >
> > > -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" jstein@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Snipped the dancing routine, sooo Nancy Grace in the groaning 3
inch
> > heels. But this is the good part cuz her refusal to accept that she
has
> > been called out was just predictable.
> > >
> > > Here is where I start hearing the music from the start of the
twilight
> > zone in my head.
> > >
> > > > It's amazing how Curtis engineered all this to make
> > > > himself appear to be the totally blameless victim by a
> > > > series of moves that's so convoluted nobody gets what
> > > > he's done except those he's done it *to*. And not for
> > > > the first time, either.
> > > >
> > > > That's one thing at which he's better than anyone here.
> > >
> > > And this is not the first time you have accused me of such a
bizarre
> > thing. And on a public board no less where we all read all the posts
if
> > we want to. And I am able to hide my deviousness from everyone but
Judy,
> > how can that be? Oh I know, it has to do with her inflated sense of
her
> > perceptive powers to detect evil, beyond all other posters reading
the
> > same posts.
> > >
> > > Let me defend myself from this twisted claim of special powers of
> > deceit in plan sight.
> > >
> > > Ravi was spinning a tale of how he has no sexual desire from his
self
> > proclaimed "whatever" state for the umpteenth time, while describing
the
> > old guy in the club behavior I get to see on a regular basis during
> > performances where alcohol is served. The only people I hear talking
> > about having no sexual desire uninvited, and relevant to nothing
that
> > applies to us, are preachers running a "I'm too special for human
> > feelings" like Jerry Falwell. In the end they are usually revealed
to be
> > hypocrites who were compelled to make their denials because they are
> > selling a story about themselves. Like Ravi is. And I would have
just
> > let it pass but he also called me dishonest for the millionth time
with
> > zero evidence. So I commented on how he appeared to me.
> > >
> > > Then Ravi claimed that he wasn't really buying drinks for an
underage
> > girl which was his original story. I am guessing that he ended up
> > looking a bit loseresque getting worked by a Tom Sawyer in hot pants
and
> > a tank top. So he tried to cover his tracks but once I smelled a rat
I
> > didn't buy his denial. I think he really did go to a club and have a
> > young girl work him for free drinks before telling him she needed to
go
> > to the bathroom and run out of the club giggling with her friends
full
> > of Ravi financed liquor. So he flew off the handle and called me
names,
> > some of which are out of line so I let him know I felt that way. I
tried
> > to explain to him the deeper context of his slurs and how they
really
> > don't belong here. Labeling someone's behavior as desperate or his
> > denials of having human feelings like the rest of us is not the same
> > thing as being called a retard, (the N word of the disabled
community)
> > or an unhinged assault being called someone's bitch, which among men
is
> > rarely used face to face because it is an invitation to fight.
Online it
> > is extreme trollish behavior. Then he doubled down again and lied
about
> > why I left the movement.
> > >
> > > Then Judy joined in as if his tirade were just another cute thing
the
> > pool boy does as he cleans her pool as she sips vodka enhanced ice
tea
> > lemonades enjoying the view. Kiss kiss Ravi, you are so hot! See how
it
> > works Ravi, she would be buying YOU drinks in a bar, does it all
make
> > sense now why the hot young thing slipped out the back door while
you
> > found out the number she gave you was fake?
> > >
> > > I was reminded of her posturing against what she considered unfair
> > posts and how she castigated me for not stepping in to scold other
> > posters who attack her. I remember the rash of shit she has flung my
way
> > concerning me not busyboding myself about what other people say to
her.
> > I realized that she was really in the exact situation where if she
has
> > an ounce of the integrity and ethical values she bloviates around
here
> > like it is her special badge of honor, she would say in her I love
hot
> > Ravi manor, "hey Ravi, perhaps you could turn it down a notch, some
of
> > us read here." But no.
> > >
> > > And I frankly don't care if she didn't, and don't need her to come
to
> > my aid for a mouthy dude who calls other men names while out of
their
> > reach. But I notice the hypocrisy and I called her on it and asking
her
> > to get off my case for doing the exact same thing, choosing my
battles
> > here, and letting us fight our own. And without the rash of
hypocritical
> > shit, that would be a reasonable position that I endorse here.
> > >
> > > But then she chose to enter the Twilight Zone to try to slip out
of
> > getting called on bullshit. It was me who made Ravi use derogatory
terms
> > for mentally disabled people, lie about why I left the movement, and
lay
> > into a demeaning tirade.
> > >
> > > One that other posters noticed was over the trollish line.
> > >
> > > But not Judy. Judy saw secret Curtis deviousness at work
orchestrating
> > Ravi's bad behavior from his secret lair. And that defending myself
from
> > an unwarranted meltdown attack is because I've been fighting a
computer
> > virus and it has unhinged me.
> > >
> > > And only she can see it, but all you other dimwits who read these
> > posts are unable to penetrate my devious ways.
> > >
> > > Out of all of this I am looking forward to a 2012 with zero "you
need
> > to scold other people for things they say to me" posts.
> > >
> > > Zero.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba <no_reply@>
wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan" <wayback71@>
wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan" <wayback71@>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > <snip>
> > > > > > > > > > > > I still am waiting to hear from you: do you
think
> > > > > > > > > > > > it is ok for Ravi to have told that nasty
personal
> > > > > > > > > > > > lie about Curtis?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > See if you can rephrase your question so it's not
> > > > > > > > > > > offensive and I'll consider answering it.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Do you think it is ok for Ravi to have told that
> > > > > > > > > > particular lie about Curtis's leaving the TM
movement?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Let's see, "Does Judy think it's OK to tell lies?"
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Nope, still offensive.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Uh, I asked if you think it is ok if Ravi told a
Particular
> > > > > > > > lie in a Particular instance? Not a general statement
about
> > > > > > > > how you feel about lying in general (Does Judy think it
is
> > OK
> > > > > > > > to tell lies?).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So you're unsure of whether a negative response to "Does
> > > > > > > Judy think it's OK to tell lies?" would cover all lies.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I see.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > A bit of difference, as you well know and would be quite
> > > > > > > > quick to point out in others.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Not if I were paying attention and wanted to be fair.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > But in your dodging around and unwillingness to answer
> > > > > > > > I got my answer.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You can manufacture whatever answers and degree of
> > > > > > > willingness suit your agenda, Susan. They don't have to
> > > > > > > have anything to do with reality.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hey, whatever. I don't want to hide behind analysis of
> > > > > > details and words. Just simple responses would have been
> > > > > > enough for me. I am done with this discussion, no interest
left.
> > > > >
> > > > > If one reads the words carefully, Judy is correct to not
> > > > > wishing to answer the questions as they were written. It
> > > > > was spin. Who wants to answer spin?
> > > >
> > > > Not only was it spin, the whole basis for the question was
> > > > disingenuous, since Susan is well aware I'm against lying.
> > > > But she wanted to hide behind the pretense that there was
> > > > some uncertainty on that point.
> > > >
> > > > There were any number of questions she *could* have asked
> > > > that would have cleared up what she genuinely didn't
> > > > understand. Even if she didn't agree, at least she would
> > > > have known what she was disagreeing *with*.
> > > >
> > > > It's amazing how Curtis engineered all this to make
> > > > himself appear to be the totally blameless victim by a
> > > > series of moves that's so convoluted nobody gets what
> > > > he's done except those he's done it *to*. And not for
> > > > the first time, either.
> > > >
> > > > That's one thing at which he's better than anyone here.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Just saying.
> > > > > Happy New Year to us all!
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>


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