Yeah, you nailed it.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn <emilymae.reyn@...> wrote:
>
> Ha ha....see my post....we are all in tune here....
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: curtisdeltablues <curtisdeltablues@...>
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, February 9, 2012 5:35 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: How Curtis and I Differ
>
>
> Â
> I was just riffing off of how much is sounds like hillbilly heroin Oxycontin.
> I just saw one of those horror show specials where people were doing that.
>
> But your information is much more interesting. Fascinating to see the
> mechanics of a mother's love!
>
> I don't think I need any. I focused on the sensitive guy routine in the 70's
> until I found out that the bad boys were banging all the chicks I thought
> were prudes! What a wake-up call that was in how the world really works.
>
> The type of blues I love is trance inducing. Once you're both in the zone it
> is the field of all possibilities, without the Mahesh. I wonder if he ever
> used seduction music. Maybe if you play Sama Veda at half speed so it sounds
> like Barry White you could get somewhere!
>
> I'll stick to blues, oxytocin free. Actually blues was always supported most
> by women. The guys from the 20's and 30's put out records that only the
> African women domestic workers could afford. They supported the whole
> industry in the early days. That is your Black history month factoid for the
> day!
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan" <wayback71@> wrote:
> >
> > I am not an MD but my understanding is that oxytocin is just about the same
> > as pitocin. You can inject pitocin - here's what it does: it causes a
> > woman to have contractions that lead to delivery of a baby! It is used in
> > hospitals if a woman needs to have stronger contractions or to have labor
> > induced. Seven hours of a pitocin drip and the baby is born. Ouch. In
> > addition to causing contractions, pitocin/oxytocin causes intense emotional
> > bonding between mother and baby. I think lots of it circulates in the
> > blood stream as long as a mother nurses and is also present in females in
> > general.
> >
> > Not sure what it would do to a male, but I suspect you would not want to be
> > the guinea pig on this one. Making inhaling it would be ok. Hospitals
> > have lots of it. Your music alone probably does something powerful enough.
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
> > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Much appreciated Susan.
> > >
> > > Lemme know if you have a good source for that oxytocin. Sounds like
> > > something fun to heat up on a piece of tinfoil and inhale through a straw!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan" <wayback71@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
> > > > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater <no_reply@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Curtis you wrote:
> > > > > > "When I was actually under a cyber
> > > > > > attack here by a member some people supported me and I appreciated
> > > > > > that. But I
> > > > > > would never expect it, even from my online "friends". I can handle
> > > > > > my business
> > > > > > here and everyone can handle theirs. So I don't have the kind of
> > > > > > expectation
> > > > > > here I would in my personal life offline."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You also state:
> > > > > > "We don't owe each other support or approval or any of the things
> > > > > > we might value offline."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Well, that is interesting for me to hear this viewpoint from you. I
> > > > > > have considered it and I find that I live in a very different way.
> > > > > > My rules for engagement, my definition of friends, my values of
> > > > > > civility and interaction are not determined by the medium I am
> > > > > > using , the location or the geographical situation I am in. I could
> > > > > > be on Mars or in my kitchen, the way I conduct my life and how I
> > > > > > view the world is not determined by the circumstances in which I
> > > > > > find myself - i.e. whether I am typing to you online or speaking to
> > > > > > you face to face I will treat you the same and expect you to do the
> > > > > > same with me. I don't mean that you would treat me with respect if
> > > > > > I treat you with respect I mean that you do not morph into someone
> > > > > > other than who you are when you are not face to face with me.
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't think we really are in as much disagreement in this as that
> > > > > quote seems to be saying. If I re-wrote that I would drop the
> > > > > ominous sounding "or any other things we might value offline". That
> > > > > does make me sound kinda psycho! Continuing in psycho mode for a
> > > > > moment: There is no form of human decency that I recognize online
> > > > > and no matter how vile or how disgusting or what an affront it is to
> > > > > decency. I support all evil here as a avatar would in the darkest
> > > > > regions of Second City slums, where human depravity can know no
> > > > > bounds!
> > > > >
> > > > > Ok, got that out of my system, I'm back now...
> > > > >
> > > > > I treat people pretty much the same in my correspondence here as I do
> > > > > in person. I do post as myself here, everyone knows where to find me
> > > > > if they want to. I guess I mean only in the area of scolding people
> > > > > who are being unfriendly to each other. In person I would have a
> > > > > lower threshold, online it is higher. I figure people here speak up
> > > > > for themselves as do I. I should probably keep the discussion about
> > > > > Robin who I judged didn't need my help rather than make
> > > > > pronouncements that make me sound like an idiot. I guess I am
> > > > > assuming that you have read enough posts of mine to know I don't act
> > > > > that way or maybe you have read enough to decide that I do! Scary
> > > > > thought.
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I know the internet is a great hiding place for some people and
> > > > > > that they can change their persona in a multitude of ways.>
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't behave that way here. But I still pick my battles. I felt
> > > > > Robin was handling himself just fine without me jumping it to "help"
> > > > > him.
> > > > >
> > > > > < But I don't think it is an excuse to abandon the ethics, the
> > > > > standards that they hold highly when they are not on the internet.>
> > > > >
> > > > > Sure. No argument there.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > < Why is FFL or any other online forum a place where we no longer
> > > > > "...owe each other support and approval." ?? This double standard is
> > > > > just not me and I don't understand that kind of reasoning. This seems
> > > > > to me that FFL is/could be a forum for one to act really badly if one
> > > > > wanted to because, after all, one is not really like that in "real
> > > > > life" (offline).>
> > > > >
> > > > > Practically speaking you can't chase after everyone who expresses
> > > > > themselves in a different way than you would choose here. You just
> > > > > can't, there is too much interaction. Right now most posters are
> > > > > being really civil so all this is easy. When we had a poster who
> > > > > flung obscenities at people in most posts it was harder.
> > > > >
> > > > > As an example, I like how you post here, and enjoy your
> > > > > contributions. But if you got into a pissing match with someone I
> > > > > would figure you can give as good as you get. So I am not laying
> > > > > down a rule for myself. But Robin's expectation that I be concerned
> > > > > with people here who expressed that they didn't like him wasn't gunna
> > > > > fly for me. He didn't have to interact with Barry at all, it was his
> > > > > choice. Once he made it, against my advice, he was on his own. So
> > > > > you are right in challenging my words as some kind of rule. But it
> > > > > doesn't come out that way in practice. And if you stick around you
> > > > > will see people using the term ethics in a contrived way to put
> > > > > people down. I mean no one jumps into everyone else's fights here,
> > > > > so you can always challenge someone's choices based on the sin of
> > > > > omission. What you think they SHOULD have done.
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You indicate that the newbies don't quite "get it", that the laws
> > > > > > of good behavior and ethics and just plain life all of a sudden
> > > > > > become obsolete when you hit the world of the internet.>
> > > > >
> > > > > That is not what I said or meant. It is just that lots of people
> > > > > blow through here and few stay. One of my observations is that some
> > > > > people have trouble adjusting to the odd combination of intimate
> > > > > conversation and this disembodied context. When I first started
> > > > > posting I was much more reactive emotionally. Now I am better able
> > > > > to let things go. I'm glad I was able to let some of Robin's
> > > > > challenges go. I consider it a sign of me making better choices here.
> > > > >
> > > > > < That there are rules and laws and, gee you greenhorns, get with the
> > > > > program here because you'll go out like a comet or get eaten alive if
> > > > > you don't. >
> > > > >
> > > > > That isn't what I said or what I meant.
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You asked me if I enjoy posting at FFL. Yes I do, very much, but
> > > > > > not because I see it as a chance to indulge myself in behavior that
> > > > > > is not true to who I am, or who I am working hard to be in every
> > > > > > other moment of my life.
> > > > >
> > > > > I can't think of any behavior I have indulged in that is not true to
> > > > > who I am so I don't know how it relates. I understand that what I
> > > > > said can be interpreted to mean these things, but it was not my
> > > > > intention and I take responsibility for being clear. Lets say you
> > > > > really ran with this ball and used it as a way to castigate me for
> > > > > promoting a phoney persona so I could abuse people here. Lets say you
> > > > > really got worked up about this POV and called me all sorts of names
> > > > > and told me you hate people who try to pull that shit online and
> > > > > really invested yourself in this view of me.
> > > > >
> > > > > Inside I would feel wronged because I don't act in an unethical way
> > > > > here. That isn't what I meant at all. But I wouldn't expect a bunch
> > > > > of people to jump in to address it. They might, both pro and con.
> > > > > But I don't believe that anyone is obligated to correct what would be
> > > > > a misconception about me. And lets take it one step farther. Let's
> > > > > say I answered you to the best of my ability as I have here and you
> > > > > responded that it was all bullshit and that you knew that I was
> > > > > really just a bad guy using the cover of the internet to do bad
> > > > > things to people here. I might try again to be understood, but if
> > > > > you came back and doubled down on your unflattering opinion of me I
> > > > > would let it drop. I might not respond to the next post directed at
> > > > > me. I might say, that is her opinion and I obviously am not going to
> > > > > change it. Other people piling on would probably not change it for
> > > > > you either if I can't myself.
> > > > >
> > > > > So that is the context I mean about our personal responsibility here.
> > > > > We all have to choose for ourselves who we are going to interact
> > > > > with here. And we all decide what discussions we want to jump in on.
> > > > > But personally,I don't expect people to. And if you do, that is
> > > > > perfectly fine too. You'll find people who agree with you here.
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am not judging you Curtis, I am giving you my viewpoint.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I appreciate an opportunity to clarify what I meant. And I still may
> > > > > not have succeeded. But you are welcome to judge me here by the
> > > > > words I write. It is really all you have to judge me by isn't it?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > I agree that Curtis does not need defending, but I am going to add just
> > > > a few words here, just to put in my 2 cents of this particular issue.
> > > > First, I think Curtis has very clear "boundaries" that he lives by. By
> > > > this I mean he has a healthy awareness of what is other people's stuff
> > > > and what is his, and he won't interfere or trespass on the stuff that
> > > > other people can and should deal with on their own. His posts reflect
> > > > this. It is not a matter of not standing up for a friend - in the
> > > > classic sense of that expectation I bet he would help a friend who
> > > > needs defending. But he is allowing others to take care of themselves
> > > > and assumes that they can.
> > > >
> > > > Second, there was a series of posts here by a person who is now longer
> > > > allowed to post. This person threatened Curtis multiple times, and
> > > > still Curtis asked that others not intervene or defend him. Partly I
> > > > think this was to protect others from possibly getting themselves on
> > > > the bad side of this poster. Partly he knew could handle it himself.
> > > >
> > > > Third, I think men are different than women in these areas. Women very
> > > > easily and effortlessly support and empathize and help and connect.
> > > > All that oxytocin in the hormone mix makes it automatic. I know there
> > > > are many times that I have to step back and consciously not give advice
> > > > and just listen and let people handle things themselves. It is a fine
> > > > line..........
> > > >
> > >
> >
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