I am terribly pleased you posted this explanatory utube video.  

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 From: raunchydog <raunchy...@yahoo.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, February 9, 2012 6:48 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: How Curtis and I Differ
 

  
Oxymorons
http://youtu.be/cWY_NTLFSa4
http://www.whatyououghttoknow.com/show/

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> Dare I call you all oxymorons??
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <curtisdeltablues@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > Yeah, you nailed it. 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn <emilymae.reyn@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Ha ha....see my post....we are all in tune here....
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ________________________________
> > >  From: curtisdeltablues <curtisdeltablues@>
> > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > > Sent: Thursday, February 9, 2012 5:35 PM
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: How Curtis and I Differ
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   
> > > I was just riffing off of how much is sounds like hillbilly heroin 
> > > Oxycontin.  I just saw one of those horror show specials where people 
> > > were doing that.
> > > 
> > > But your information is much more interesting.  Fascinating to see the 
> > > mechanics of a mother's love!
> > > 
> > > I don't think I need any.  I focused on the sensitive guy routine in the 
> > > 70's until I found out that the bad boys were banging all the chicks I 
> > > thought were prudes!  What a wake-up call that was in how the world 
> > > really works.
> > > 
> > > The type of blues I love is trance inducing.  Once you're both in the 
> > > zone it is the field of all possibilities, without the Mahesh.  I wonder 
> > > if he ever used seduction music.  Maybe if you play Sama Veda at half 
> > > speed so it sounds like Barry White you could get somewhere!
> > > 
> > > I'll stick to blues, oxytocin free.  Actually blues was always supported 
> > > most by women.  The guys from the 20's and 30's put out records that only 
> > > the African women domestic workers could afford.  They supported the 
> > > whole industry in the early days.  That is your Black history month 
> > > factoid for the day! 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan" <wayback71@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I am not an MD but my understanding is that oxytocin is just about the 
> > > > same as pitocin.  You can inject pitocin - here's what it does:  it 
> > > > causes a woman to have contractions that lead to delivery of a baby!  
> > > > It is used in hospitals if a woman needs to have stronger contractions 
> > > > or to have labor induced.  Seven hours of a pitocin drip and the baby 
> > > > is born.  Ouch.  In addition to causing contractions, pitocin/oxytocin 
> > > > causes intense emotional bonding between mother and baby.  I think lots 
> > > > of it circulates in the blood stream as long as a mother nurses and is 
> > > > also present in females in general.
> > > > 
> > > > Not sure what it would do to a male, but I suspect you would not want 
> > > > to be the guinea pig on this one.  Making inhaling it would be ok.  
> > > > Hospitals have lots of it.  Your music alone probably does something 
> > > > powerful enough.
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
> > > > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Much appreciated Susan.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Lemme know if you have a good source for that oxytocin.  Sounds like 
> > > > > something fun to heat up on a piece of tinfoil and inhale through a 
> > > > > straw!
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan" <wayback71@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
> > > > > > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater <no_reply@> 
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Curtis you wrote:
> > > > > > > > "When I was actually under a cyber
> > > > > > > > attack here by a member some people supported me and I 
> > > > > > > > appreciated that. But I
> > > > > > > > would never expect it, even from my online "friends". I can 
> > > > > > > > handle my business
> > > > > > > > here and everyone can handle theirs. So I don't have the kind 
> > > > > > > > of expectation
> > > > > > > > here I would in my personal life offline."
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > You also state:
> > > > > > > > "We don't owe each other support or approval or any of the 
> > > > > > > > things we might value offline."
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Well, that is interesting for me to hear this viewpoint from 
> > > > > > > > you. I have considered it and I find that I live in a very 
> > > > > > > > different way. My rules for engagement, my definition of 
> > > > > > > > friends, my values of civility and interaction are not 
> > > > > > > > determined by the medium I am using , the location or the 
> > > > > > > > geographical situation I am in. I could be on Mars or in my 
> > > > > > > > kitchen, the way I conduct my life and how I view the world is 
> > > > > > > > not determined by the circumstances in which I find myself - 
> > > > > > > > i.e. whether I am typing to you online or speaking to you face 
> > > > > > > > to face I will treat you the same and expect you to do the same 
> > > > > > > > with me. I don't mean that you would treat me with respect if I 
> > > > > > > > treat you with respect I mean that you do not morph into 
> > > > > > > > someone other than who you are when you are not face to face 
> > > > > > > > with me. 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I don't think we really are in as much disagreement in this as 
> > > > > > > that quote seems to be saying.  If I re-wrote that I would drop 
> > > > > > > the ominous sounding "or any other things we might value 
> > > > > > > offline".  That does make me sound kinda psycho!  Continuing in 
> > > > > > > psycho mode for a moment:  There is no form of human decency that 
> > > > > > > I recognize online and no matter how vile or how disgusting or 
> > > > > > > what an affront it is to decency. I support all evil here as a 
> > > > > > > avatar would in the darkest regions of Second City slums, where 
> > > > > > > human depravity can know no bounds!
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Ok, got that out of my system, I'm back now...
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I treat people pretty much the same in my correspondence here as 
> > > > > > > I do in person.  I do post as myself here, everyone knows where 
> > > > > > > to find me if they want to.  I guess I mean only in the area of 
> > > > > > > scolding people who are being unfriendly to each other.  In 
> > > > > > > person I would have a lower threshold, online it is higher.  I 
> > > > > > > figure people here speak up for themselves as do I.  I should 
> > > > > > > probably keep the discussion about Robin who I judged didn't need 
> > > > > > > my help rather than make pronouncements that make me sound like 
> > > > > > > an idiot.  I guess I am assuming that you have read enough posts 
> > > > > > > of mine to know I don't act that way or maybe you have read 
> > > > > > > enough to decide that I do!  Scary thought.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > I know the internet is a great hiding place for some people and 
> > > > > > > > that they can change their persona in a multitude of ways.>
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I don't behave that way here.  But I still pick my battles.  I 
> > > > > > > felt Robin was handling himself just fine without me jumping it 
> > > > > > > to "help" him.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > < But I don't think it is an excuse to abandon the ethics, the 
> > > > > > > standards that they hold highly when they are not on the 
> > > > > > > internet.>
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Sure.  No argument there.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > < Why is FFL or any other online forum a place where we no longer 
> > > > > > > "...owe each other support and approval." ?? This double standard 
> > > > > > > is just not me and I don't understand that kind of reasoning. 
> > > > > > > This seems to me that FFL is/could be a forum for one to act 
> > > > > > > really badly if one wanted to because, after all, one is not 
> > > > > > > really like that in "real life" (offline).>
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Practically speaking you can't chase after everyone who expresses 
> > > > > > > themselves in a different way than you would choose here.  You 
> > > > > > > just can't, there is too much interaction.  Right now most 
> > > > > > > posters are being really civil so all this is easy.  When we had 
> > > > > > > a poster who flung obscenities at people in most posts it was 
> > > > > > > harder.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > As an example, I like how you post here, and enjoy your 
> > > > > > > contributions.  But if you got into a pissing match with someone 
> > > > > > > I would figure you can give as good as you get.  So I am not 
> > > > > > > laying down a rule for myself.  But Robin's expectation that I be 
> > > > > > > concerned with people here who expressed that they didn't like 
> > > > > > > him wasn't gunna fly for me.  He didn't have to interact with 
> > > > > > > Barry at all, it was his choice.  Once he made it, against my 
> > > > > > > advice, he was on his own.  So you are right in challenging my 
> > > > > > > words as some kind of rule.  But it doesn't come out that way in 
> > > > > > > practice.  And if you stick around you will see people using the 
> > > > > > > term ethics in a contrived way to put people down.  I mean no one 
> > > > > > > jumps into everyone else's fights here, so you can always 
> > > > > > > challenge someone's choices based on the sin of omission. What 
> > > > > > > you think they SHOULD have done.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > You indicate that the newbies don't quite "get it", that the 
> > > > > > > > laws of good behavior and ethics and just plain life all of a 
> > > > > > > > sudden become obsolete when you hit the world of the internet.>
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > That is not what I said or meant.  It is just that lots of people 
> > > > > > > blow through here and few stay.  One of my observations is that 
> > > > > > > some people have trouble adjusting to the odd combination of 
> > > > > > > intimate conversation and this disembodied context. When I first 
> > > > > > > started posting I was much more reactive emotionally.  Now I am 
> > > > > > > better able to let things go.  I'm glad I was able to let some of 
> > > > > > > Robin's challenges go. I consider it a sign of me making better 
> > > > > > > choices here. 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > < That there are rules and laws and, gee you greenhorns, get with 
> > > > > > > the program here because you'll go out like a comet or get eaten 
> > > > > > > alive if you don't. >
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > That isn't what I said or what I meant. 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > You asked me if I enjoy posting at FFL. Yes I do, very much, 
> > > > > > > > but not because I see it as a chance to indulge myself in 
> > > > > > > > behavior that is not true to who I am, or who I am working hard 
> > > > > > > > to be in every other moment of my life.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I can't think of any behavior I have indulged in that is not true 
> > > > > > > to who I am so I don't know how it relates.  I understand that 
> > > > > > > what I said can be interpreted to mean these things, but it was 
> > > > > > > not my intention and I take responsibility for being clear.  Lets 
> > > > > > > say you really ran with this ball and used it as a way to 
> > > > > > > castigate me for promoting a phoney persona so I could abuse 
> > > > > > > people here. Lets say you really got worked up about this POV and 
> > > > > > > called me all sorts of names and told me you hate people who try 
> > > > > > > to pull that shit online and really invested yourself in this 
> > > > > > > view of me.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Inside I would feel wronged because I don't act in an unethical 
> > > > > > > way here.  That isn't what I meant at all.  But I wouldn't expect 
> > > > > > > a bunch of people to jump in to address it.  They might, both pro 
> > > > > > > and con.  But I don't believe that anyone is obligated to correct 
> > > > > > > what would be a misconception about me. And lets take it one step 
> > > > > > > farther.  Let's say I answered you to the best of my ability as I 
> > > > > > > have here and you responded that it was all bullshit and that you 
> > > > > > > knew that I was really just a bad guy using the cover of the 
> > > > > > > internet to do bad things to people here.  I might try again to 
> > > > > > > be understood, but if you came back and doubled down on your 
> > > > > > > unflattering opinion of me I would let it drop.  I might not 
> > > > > > > respond to the next post directed at me.  I might say, that is 
> > > > > > > her opinion and I obviously am not going to change it.  Other 
> > > > > > > people piling on would probably not change it for you either if I 
> > > > > > > can't myself.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > So that is the context I mean about our personal responsibility 
> > > > > > > here.  We all have to choose for ourselves who we are going to 
> > > > > > > interact with here.  And we all decide what discussions we want 
> > > > > > > to jump in on.  But personally,I don't expect people to.  And if 
> > > > > > > you do, that is perfectly fine too.  You'll find people who agree 
> > > > > > > with you here.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > I am not judging you Curtis, I am giving you my viewpoint. 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I appreciate an opportunity to clarify what I meant.  And I still 
> > > > > > > may not have succeeded.  But you are welcome to judge me here by 
> > > > > > > the words I write.  It is really all you have to judge me by 
> > > > > > > isn't it?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > I agree that Curtis does not need defending, but I am going to add 
> > > > > > just a few words here, just to put in my 2 cents of this particular 
> > > > > > issue.  First, I think Curtis has very clear "boundaries" that he 
> > > > > > lives by. By this I mean he has a healthy awareness of what is 
> > > > > > other people's stuff and what is his, and he won't interfere or 
> > > > > > trespass on the stuff that other people can and should deal with on 
> > > > > > their own. His posts reflect this.  It is not a matter of not 
> > > > > > standing up for a friend - in the classic sense of that expectation 
> > > > > > I bet he would help a friend who needs defending.  But he is 
> > > > > > allowing others to take care of themselves and assumes that they 
> > > > > > can.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Second, there was a series of posts here by a person who is now 
> > > > > > longer allowed to post.  This person threatened Curtis multiple 
> > > > > > times, and still Curtis asked that others not intervene or defend 
> > > > > > him. Partly I think this was to protect others from possibly 
> > > > > > getting themselves on the bad side of this poster.  Partly he knew 
> > > > > > could handle it himself. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Third, I think men are different than women in these areas.  Women 
> > > > > > very easily and effortlessly support and empathize and help and 
> > > > > > connect.  All that oxytocin in the hormone mix makes it automatic.  
> > > > > > I know there are many times that I have to step back and 
> > > > > > consciously not give advice and just listen and let people handle 
> > > > > > things themselves.  It is a fine line..........
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>


 

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