Hey Ravi,

You're smarter than you look.:)  Please, check the FFL chart with the following 
birth data:

September 5, 2001
14:24:00
TZ 5
Fairfield, Iowa

Based on my analysis, the chart is fairly representative of the forum's 
characteristics.

> 
> "Jupiter in the 8th house causes arguments among members since Jupiter is
> the lord of the 5th house or the mind/discussions of concepts."
> 
> This is a ridiculous argument, arguments would have some airy influence so
> should involve 3/11 houses.

The point being made is that when there is lack of equanimity of mind due to 
difference of opinion, anger and disagreements happen.  This is what is meant 
when the lord of the 5th house (representing the mind) is placed in the 8th 
house, the field of death.


 8th is not written composition, 8th is the gut,
> intuition - Jupiter in 8th wouldn't cause arguments more like Jupiter -  
> higher intelligence directed towards 8th house matters - i.e. metaphysics.


Here's a practical rationale why the 8th house is the field of written works.  
Typically, writers create their thoughts while in seclusion in their desk.  
Being secluded is signified by the 8th house.  Thus, the creativity is spawned 
in the field of transformation, the 8th house, strange as it may seem.



> And no 5th house has nothing to do with mind, 5th house is for like you say 
> elsewhere love( as opposed to marriage), creativity, mantra, innate hidden 
> talents, children.

KN Rao stated that jyotishis from Northern India use the fifth house to 
represent education at the high school level.  Thus, it's logical to consider 
the 5th house to represent the mind.  However, the other significations you 
mentioned are correct.
> 
> "The combination of Jupiter and Rahu causes discussion of atheistic
> philosophies, particularly that of Richard Dawkins."
> 
> This again is ridiculous. Jupiter and Rahu is Guru Chandala Yoga - so this 
> list would be against authority, against Gurus, against tradition (hence  
> being in West opposed to mainstream Christianity, favoring Eastern  
> religions) in the areas of metaphysics, spiritual transformation (8th).
> 
You tend to shoot before you aim, old chap.  As you well know, Rahu is 
considered a demon in the vedic literature.  And, Jupiter is considered to be 
the guru, the significator of traditional beliefs.  If Rahu is in conjunction 
of Jupiter, Rahu will negatively influence the traditional beliefs signified by 
Jupiter.  Thus, IMO the conjunction causes atheistic ideas and philosophies.

Nonetheless, your other points in this regard are well taken.


> Stop confusing my Aunt Share you idiot !!!

This kind of language just proves the point that the FFL chart is correct.

 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 2:15 PM, John <jr_esq@...> wrote:
> 
> > **
> >
> >
> > Share,
> >
> > The 8th house represents transformation, mystery, taboo subjects, sexual
> > practices, scientific discoveries, esoteric subjects and ancient
> > civilizations. Oddly enough, it also represents writing compositions since
> > this house is the 5th house (signifying creativity) from the 4th
> > house(signifying the heart or thought).
> >
> > 1. Jupiter in the 8th house causes arguments among members since Jupiter
> > is the lord of the 5th house or the mind/discussions of concepts.
> >
> > Also, Jupiter is a significator of the Guru. Thus, the forum engages in
> > discussing the negative aspects, such as rumours of sexual encounters with
> > female disciples, of spiritual movement gurus like MMY and others.
> >
> > 2. Rahu in Gemini and in the 8th house causes discussion of current
> > scientific developments, particularly in cosmology and quantum theories.
> >
> > Since Rahu signifies something odd or foreign, the forum often discusses
> > gay marriages, polygamy, and polyamorous relationships. Similarly, the
> > forum has discussed topics like crop circles, UFOs, Atlantis, construction
> > of the Egyptian pyramids, and the ancient Maya and Inca civilizations.
> >
> > 3. The combination of Jupiter and Rahu causes discussion of atheistic
> > philosophies, particularly that of Richard Dawkins.
> >
> > 4. You will find all of these discussions in the archives, which represent
> > the forum's written works and literature.
> >
> > So, there you have it--the forum activities in brief.
> >
> > JR
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long <sharelong60@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Richard, I bet a really good jyotishi could tell us who it's going to be
> > about tomorrow (-:
> > >
> > > John, what about Guru and Rahu in the 8th, opposed by Mars and Ketu in
> > 2nd.  Can't be good!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: Richard J. Williams <richard@>
> > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 12:26 PM
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re:to everyone -- writing for the Church of
> > $cientology
> > >
> > >
> > > Â
> > > tourquoiseb:
> > > > It's the *presumption* of this that blows my mind.
> > > > That Curtis or anyone else "owes" him a response
> > > > in which he addresses what he says about him. And
> > > > that if Curtis doesn't do what he's being told to
> > > > do, he's just going to keep calling him names
> > > > until he does.
> > > >
> > > > That's what children throwing tantrums do. That's
> > > > what chronic abusers do. That's what people suffer-
> > > > ing from Narcissistic Personality Disorder do.
> > > > That's what attention vampires do. That's what
> > > > Robin does, it's what Judy does, and in a saddening
> > > > trend it's what Ann is starting to do.
> > > >
> > > > It's NOT what normal people do.
> > > >
> > > > What would you do if some guy on the street walked
> > > > up to you, yelled a bunch of disparaging things
> > > > about you in your face, and then stood there
> > > > demanding that you *debate* these things with him,
> > > > and in detail? Wouldn't you be kinda tempted to
> > > > point up to the sky and say "Look...is that a UFO?"
> > > > ...and then run away?
> > > >
> > > > And yet put people on an Internet forum and they
> > > > start to think that they can demand things of
> > > > others that they would never dare to demand of
> > > > them in real life.
> > > >
> > > So, it's all about Barry. LoL!
> > > Share, I tried to warn you.
> > >
> > >
> > > > > > I will repeat what is obvious as long as you try to
> > > > > > bullshit your way out of addressing what I say about
> > > > > > you, Curtis.
> > > > >
> > > > > M:Â  You have now defined yourself as a troll here Robin.Â
> > > > > Got it.  Over and out.
> > >
> >
> >  
> >
>


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