Damn..and you seem to have a good, accurate chart that reflects the ethos of FFL well. Good job.
On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 12:01 AM, Ravi Chivukula <chivukula.r...@gmail.com>wrote: > Anyway to clarify further - all the houses for me are structured > perfectly, with specific indications, supporting each other very well. If > you take 5th as mind it completely breaks down things - as it is most > accept 9th house for higher education. And as I said - 5th supports mind, > being 3rd (initiative) from 3rd (intellect) and 2nd(resources) from 4th > (emotions) - but 5th doesn't represent mind, just creativity. > > > On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 11:14 PM, Ravi Chivukula <chivukula.r...@gmail.com > > wrote: > >> Dear John, >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 10:31 PM, John <jr_...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>> ** >>> >>> >>> Hey Ravi, >>> >>> You're smarter than you look.:) Please, check the FFL chart with the >>> following birth data: >>> >> >> Well I have spent a lot of time studying astrology in the past and it's >> basically fun for me to analyze the patterns since it gives good insights - >> mostly from a personality perspective. I haven't spent any time on >> astrology readings in recent times. >> >> >>> >>> September 5, 2001 >>> 14:24:00 >>> TZ 5 >>> Fairfield, Iowa >>> >>> Based on my analysis, the chart is fairly representative of the forum's >>> characteristics. >>> >> >> Thanks for the chart - I have looked at it briefly and definitely - a >> nice and interesting chart. >> >> >>> >>> > >>> > "Jupiter in the 8th house causes arguments among members since Jupiter >>> is >>> > the lord of the 5th house or the mind/discussions of concepts." >>> > >>> > This is a ridiculous argument, arguments would have some airy >>> influence so >>> > should involve 3/11 houses. >>> >>> The point being made is that when there is lack of equanimity of mind >>> due to difference of opinion, anger and disagreements happen. This is what >>> is meant when the lord of the 5th house (representing the mind) is placed >>> in the 8th house, the field of death. >>> >> >> Regardless of what KN Rao says I don't accept 5th house as representing >> mind - mind is intellect - 3rd house and emotions - 4th house, 5th is for >> all creative self-expression. If you look at 5th, it is 2nd from 4th hence >> food for 4th - so creative self expression leads to happier emotions but >> 5th is 3rd from 3rd - so the initiative for intellect driven by 5th - so >> planets in 5th will affect intellect and emotions but 5th doesn't represent >> mind. >> >> In fact arguments is natural for a list like this yeah? But how healthy >> is it - The problem I see is Mars/Ketu in the 2nd house and it points to >> lot of passive aggressive behavior, repressed anger - since Mars is being >> eclipsed by Ketu. Mars is also lord of 1st - so lack of self-identity >> manifested by overt, agressive stance against traditions, Gurus as >> represented by Rahu, Jupiter in 8th. So 2 of the male planets Jupiter and >> Mars are eclipsed by Rahu and Ketu - so most of the posters may have issues >> expressing masculinity, lacking positive expressions of masculine >> qualities. However Sun is well placed as 10th lord in 10th. >> >> >> >>> >>> >>> 8th is not written composition, 8th is the gut, >>> > intuition - Jupiter in 8th wouldn't cause arguments more like Jupiter >>> - higher intelligence directed towards 8th house matters - i.e. metaphysics. >>> >>> Here's a practical rationale why the 8th house is the field of written >>> works. Typically, writers create their thoughts while in seclusion in their >>> desk. Being secluded is signified by the 8th house. Thus, the creativity is >>> spawned in the field of transformation, the 8th house, strange as it may >>> seem. >>> >>> >> Right 8th is for seclusion, since being 6th from 3rd - it shows the >> sadhana needed to support healthy intellect. So I may yield here a little >> bit since Rahu eclipses Jupiter here in the 8th but I don't agree on 8th >> being written compositions. Writing is 3rd house, Sanjay Rath would say >> look at A3 - arudha pada of 3rd house - for books, writings and here A3 is >> in the 11th house with Mercury in it which points to the excellent writing >> here on FFL. Not to mention the the beautiful Moon - the lord of 9th in the >> 5th, 3rd lord Saturn in 7th and even 7th lord Venus in 9th - those are all >> good positions. >> >> >> >>> >>> > And no 5th house has nothing to do with mind, 5th house is for like >>> you say elsewhere love( as opposed to marriage), creativity, mantra, innate >>> hidden talents, children. >>> >>> KN Rao stated that jyotishis from Northern India use the fifth house to >>> represent education at the high school level. Thus, it's logical to >>> consider the 5th house to represent the mind. However, the other >>> significations you mentioned are correct. >>> >> >> Yeah - like I said before 5th supports mind - 3rd & 4th but I don't treat >> 5th as representing mind. >> >> >>> >>> > >>> > "The combination of Jupiter and Rahu causes discussion of atheistic >>> > philosophies, particularly that of Richard Dawkins." >>> > >>> > This again is ridiculous. Jupiter and Rahu is Guru Chandala Yoga - so >>> this list would be against authority, against Gurus, against tradition >>> (hence being in West opposed to mainstream Christianity, favoring Eastern >>> religions) in the areas of metaphysics, spiritual transformation (8th). >>> > >>> You tend to shoot before you aim, old chap. As you well know, Rahu is >>> considered a demon in the vedic literature. And, Jupiter is considered to >>> be the guru, the significator of traditional beliefs. If Rahu is in >>> conjunction of Jupiter, Rahu will negatively influence the traditional >>> beliefs signified by Jupiter. Thus, IMO the conjunction causes atheistic >>> ideas and philosophies. >>> >>> Nonetheless, your other points in this regard are well taken. >>> >> >> Well - I'm well aware of Rahu John. But I wouldn't take Rahu to represent >> atheism, Rahu for me shows obsession, grabbing versus Ketu - suppression, >> denial - remember Rahu trying to down the Amrita and getting beheaded. >> Atheism would have to be lot of airy influences with Mercury, Ketu & Saturn >> - I can't be sure. Either way I don't see any atheists on the site other >> than Curtis, but then again I haven't seen him expressing too much of his >> atheistic side anyway more as in questioning traditions, Gurus etc. Anyway >> my point remains - as in Guru Chandala shows posters against Gurus, >> traditions and this is quite clear here on FFL. Being in Gemini shows the >> intellectual flair again, the lord Mercury again reconfirming it being >> exalted in Virgo. >> >> >>> >>> >>> > Stop confusing my Aunt Share you idiot !!! >>> >>> This kind of language just proves the point that the FFL chart is >>> correct. >>> >> >> Right - I would blame the Mars, Ketu in the 2nd house again :-) >> >> Thanks for the opportunity to flex my astrology muscles or is it >> astrology brain cells :-) >> >> Love, >> Ravi. >> >> >> >
