What was uncomfortable for you about making eye contact, Share?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long <sharelong60@...> wrote: > > Silently making eye contact and I do remember the word shakitpat being used a > few times. In the beginning only teachers and mentors gazed with others. > Now everyone gazes with everyone. Since I didn't like it, I'm probably not > the best to describe its benefits. > > How is shaktipat given in your tradition? > > > guy at the gas station=Buddha At the Gas Pump? > > Impressed? Most recently I have been impressed by Dr. Nader because he > seems brilliant AND compassionate AND down to earth. He is leading a very > human life with a wife and children and a medical practice. > > > > ________________________________ > From: Bhairitu <noozguru@...> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 2:38 PM > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits > > >  > What is "the gazing"? I've been taught to give shaktipat by my tantra > guru but it doesn't involve any "gazing." Sometimes I wonder if these > people had any authentic teacher or just some charlatan from India. > There are probably more than a few Indians in the US who have learned > tantra and some are astrologers and others are quiet maybe helping > someone if they ask. And then there is the guy at the gas station who > decided to call himself a Swami for some extra money. > > It's a good thing to spend a few months testing a teacher and boning up > on the field through books such as Dr. Robert Svoboda's excellent > trilogy (on what it is like to be a westerner learning from an authentic > tantric). > > I would also be interested in what kind of things "impress" people? > > On 10/16/2012 10:55 AM, Share Long wrote: > > laughing because different strokes, etc. I rarely liked the gazing. OTOH, > > I wasn't comfortable attending and NOT participating in gazing. And they > > don't like people coming late to avoid the gazing... > > > > > > WDM gave me a steady spiritual family when I first left campus. I'll > > always be grateful for that. Even so, I was never looking for another > > theory of consciounsess, etc. so I didn't mind their lack of that. And I > > do think the whole mutuality angle is an important one that very few others > > discuss. > > > > > > Didn't go last night but am busting with curiosity about it (-: > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Alex Stanley <j_alexander_stanley@...> > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 12:49 PM > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <feste37@> wrote: > >> > >> > >> And it cost $20 too. I see Bonder as a guy with a few ideas, which > >> may or may not be helpful to some people. > > Waking Down is a small, niche path that is certainly not for everyone. > > > >> I have heard him twice, and can't say I have been overwhelmingly > >> impressed. > > I wasn't at all impressed the first time I went to see him and Linda at the > > FF library, about 10 years ago. But, on his next trip to FF, he was here > > with Pascal Salesses, a WD teacher who had just moved to FF, and I felt a > > connection with her. I'm grateful that Saniel started WD, but I've always > > connected better with some of the other teachers. And, I can't even begin > > to get through his books. For me, the WD experience had nothing to do with > > ideas; it was all about the gazing. > > > > > > >
