--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" 
<fintlewoodlewix@...> wrote:

> All life on this planet is descended from one cell, a
> hybrid between two types of bacteria - which is all there
> was for billions of years - there would be no complexity or
> consciousness without that one chance event. That is as hard
> a fact as you'll find, religious types can sit around 
> dreaming otherwise till the cows come home.

Well in my (limited) biochemical understanding, bacteria are
themselves made of cells. I believe that they have a few 
million nucleotides of DNA. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacteria#Cellular_structure

Surely the question is how did such complex biochemical
machines as these come into existence from 'random stuff'? 

Darwinian evolution, whatever its other merits, is not going 
to explain the origin of life. We need a chemical, physical 
theory for that. Darwinian evolution *presupposes* an accurate 
inheritance mechanism. The mechanism needs to be one that is 
sufficiently reliable to further the line, but sufficiently 
fallible to allow the odd random mutation. The balance of 
accuracy to error probably needs to be rather finely tuned. 

I think I'm with the Robin/Nagel camp (but also impressed by 
Michael Behe, James Le Fanu and David Stove): It beggars 
belief that from a chemical mush there could spring ready-
formed (and sufficiently robust) a biochemical inheritance 
mechanism capable of carrying the weight of a Darwinist 
process. 

How does goop get to beget and have kids? Or am I missing 
something?

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