Alex the important difference is that Waking Down absolutely did not in my experience ever include what I call in FFL piling on. Piling on in the name of rigorous honesty is what I consider unhealthy, unhealed and cowardly behavior in wts. That and piling onto only one of the people who disagreed with them. And cheering each other on about it. Warts yet present. I never saw any of these behaviors in Waking Down. And it's possible you and I didn't attend all of the same meetings. In my experience, Waking Down created a safe environment in which people could be rigorously honest with themselves and with others. It was balanced masculine and feminine with lack of hyperness in either direction.
________________________________ From: Alex Stanley <j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 7:58 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: to Emily part 2 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater <no_reply@...> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <authfriend@> wrote: > > > > > Maybe even *rigorous* examination. > > Lord help us Judy (but not that Lord), someone might have to > actually break a small sweat if it included the act of being > "rigorous". Speaking as another person with experience in Waking Down, I found Share's excuse/explanation about rigorousness being hypermasculine very strange. Saniel Bonder likes to slather WD with saccharine bullshit frosting, but as another WD teacher described it, in WD you wake up to your mugshot. It's not about techiquifying yourself into some future perfected enlightened being; it's about waking up to exactly who you are right now. From my own experience, I don't see how self-honesty could be any more rigorous than WD's brutal, uncontrolled free-fall into what is.