I think you were writing this as I was riffing on a similar thing.  In Catholic 
theology the immaculate conception is not about Mary being a virgin, but being 
uniquely born without original sin and therefor able to bear Jesus.  So the 
jury is still out on Joseph's mojo.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <curtisdeltablues@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > Wow that poster in NYC proved it really IS the Age of 
> > Enlightenment.  Thanks for posting that.
> 
> Thought you'd like it. :-)
> 
> <snippus interruptus, cutting to the...uh...climax)
> 
> > Speaking of that [the mythology of Christmas] I was 
> > considering how consensual the whole Holy Ghost hook-up 
> > was back in the day...I mean if a boss comes on to an 
> > employee we cry foul and bust him for coercion. I think 
> > the whole Mary story is ripe for a feminist retelling 
> > as a tragedy. What choice did she really have when the 
> > creepy uncle of the Triune God made a play for her? Did 
> > he during what must have been a fairly clumsy seduction 
> > remind her of what he did to the dinosaurs, or was it 
> > like the greatest Justin Bieber concert display but in 
> > the end he takes her back to the dressing room? Did he 
> > at least let her finish or was it just a typical wham 
> > bam thank you mam?  Did she feel obliged to fake it to 
> > sooth his monstrous ego. "Oh baby, that was divine!"
> > 
> > These are the questions that swirl around my head as I 
> > gaze on my nativity.  Did Mary know what he son was 
> > headed for when she signed up her uterus for this 
> > project, or was it presented like a Hollywood script 
> > with a lot of pages at the end with TBD at the top?  Did 
> > her youth and inexperience, her cultural deference to men 
> > limit her ability to ask how it all ends before she signed 
> > on? What if she had told him she had a headache that night, 
> > would he have been a gentleman?
> > 
> > And having been around a few babies in my time, when Mary 
> > changed his diaper did even the Oxen rear up their heads 
> > and lumber out of the manger grunting "damn that holy 
> > guacamole is nasty!" 
> 
> While your version of the Christmas Story is far more
> entertaining than most, I have to log in as saying that
> it still sets off my inner Occam's Razor Detector a tad
> too much. The reason is that it riffs off of, but still
> relies on, Mary's version of the Immaculate Conception. 
> That is, that there actually *was* a human-ghost get-it-on. 
> 
> While there may be some anecdotal evidence of women who
> said that they were raped by non-physical beings, there
> is not a lot of evidence of anyone getting knocked up
> as the result of such an astral assignation. So Occam's 
> Razor tells me that there must be a simpler -- and thus 
> more likely -- explanation for her pregnancy. 
> 
> My theory revolves around the somewhat curious fact that
> Mary is continually referred to as a virgin. This despite
> the fact that she's married to this older guy, Joseph. 
> 
> What's up with that?
> 
> Are we to assume that Joseph didn't diddle Mary because
> he was psychically seeing Jesus coming and didn't want to
> mess with a good myth? Or is it more likely that Joseph,
> as nice a guy as he may have been, was a little weak in
> the willy. A bit of erectile dysfunction, if you get what
> I mean. Voila. The problem of Mary's lingering virginity 
> is solved -- Joe just couldn't get it up. 
> 
> So what's a young married babe (and you've seen the paint-
> ings of Mary...she *was* a babe) to do? She's stuck in what
> was probably an arranged marriage with this old fuck, and
> because he can't get it up she's deprived of even the
> sensual benefits of marriage. 
> 
> At this point Lem, the dim-witted but handsome and hunky
> stableboy next door starts looking better and better. So
> one day, while carpenter Joseph is off cutting wood instead
> of springing it, Mary sneaks next door and gets it on with
> Lem. You may assume that this indiscretion repeated itself
> or that it was a one-afternoon stand, depending on how 
> religious you are, but eventually it resulted in Mary 
> getting good and knocked up. 
> 
> So she's gotta tell Joe. What to do, what to do? Should
> Mary tell him the truth, and make him feel even shittier
> about his wilted willy than he already does? So she thinks,
> "Maybe I'll spare him all that pain and just make up some
> outlandish story about getting knocked up by God." Voila,
> Mary's version of the Immaculate Conception. 
> 
> I like this theory because it kinda leaves Joseph a nice,
> if cuckolded, guy and Mary is easy to develop compassion
> for because she was trying to spare his feelings. Plus, it
> suits the Occam's Razor "the simplest explanation is the
> most likely explanation" criterion. 
> 
> The only problem with this theory is that now we've got
> to develop a whole mythology around Lem. It was *his* 
> genes that went on to become Jesus and change the world,
> after all. Isn't it time Lem had his own church?
>


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