--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long <sharelong60@...> wrote:
>
> So Judy, any criticisms for Ravi's over the top post below?  Right.  I 
> thought not.  Even though it was obviously way over the top.  And it is the 
> one that prompted Steve to respond to Ravi.  But right, focus on Steve and 
> me and our alleged wrong doings.  Dredge up the past if need be.  But 
> definitely ignore Ravi's extreme over reaction.  So much for friend's being 
> able to speak frankly with each other.  

Each to our own opinion on Ravi's post. I found it rather humorous because it 
was typical of his style and the playfulness in it felt less than 'over the 
top' to me. But I have found that you don't have the most active sense of 
humour, especially when something is directed at you. You like to 'play' but 
only when it deflects or is a way for you to skirt around things. Still, you do 
have your supporter in Steve so that is nice for you. He is very staunch.
> 
> 
> Judy to Ravi in Mission
>  Accomplished thread:
> 
> Good enough, Ravi, thanks. We should all be able to
> speak frankly to those we care about.
> 
> 
> ________________________________
>  From: Ravi Chivukula <chivukula.ravi@...>
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 12:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Asstral [was Re: The Use of the Second 
> Attention, Pros and Cons]
>  
> 
>   
> Not clear enough, hmm.. - OK - I'm working on a sign for my door
> 
> 1) Leave your fucking platitudes at the doorstep
> 2) Leave your inauthentic bullshit at the doorstep
> 3) Leave your delusional fantasies at the doorstep
> 
> Which one do you think is better my beloved Auntie Share?
> 
> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Share Long <sharelong60@...> wrote:
> 
>  
> >  
> >I shall go forth dearest Ravi but only if we can go hand in hand smiley 
> >smile (-:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >________________________________
> > From: Ravi Chivukula <chivukula.ravi@...>
> >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> >Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 10:16 AM
> >Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Asstral [was Re: The Use of the Second 
> >Attention, Pros and Cons]
> > 
> >
> >
> >  
> >"The celestial realm is NOT the upper astral according to them."
> >
> >
> >Oh dear Share - with the above statement the automated platitude detector of 
> >FFL has recorded this as your 1 millionth platitude on FFL. You are hereby 
> >declared to be the avatar of Mother Saraswati. You no longer need to visit 
> >any healers, quantum light weavers - your weaknesses have been reduced to 
> >naught in one fell swoop, you have been totally healed - no longer you are 
> >one of the billions with positives and negatives. Go forth and start your 
> >own cult O' Wise lady.
> >
> >On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 7:26 AM, Share Long <sharelong60@...> wrote:
> >
> > 
> >>  
> >>Doc, I appreciate what you say about astral being a reflection of 
> >>consciousness.  Want to add that 2 spiritual teachers I respect a lot say 
> >>that there is a definite distinction between the celestial and astral 
> >>realms.  The celestial realm is NOT the upper astral according to them.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>________________________________
> >> From: "doctordumbass@..." <doctordumbass@...>
> >>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> >>Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 9:05 AM
> >>Subject: [FairfieldLife] Asstral [was Re: The Use of the Second Attention, 
> >>Pros and Cons]
> >> 
> >>
> >>
> >>  
> >>Think of it this way - the astral world, meaning all of it, parallels our 
> >>consciousness, like two thermometers, side by side, each reading the same 
> >>thing. Astral is a higher vibration than physical. The sight one gets from 
> >>practicing Patanjali's sutra, or by some other means like peyote (ick) or 
> >>mescaline (ugh) or LSD (yuck), will bring you into that world, according to 
> >>your level of consciousness at the time. 
> >>
> >>Those that experience unpleasant entities are merely seeing the astral 
> >>manifestation of their consciousness. Astral means the entire universe of 
> >>subtle sight. Of course, once a person is familiar with the full scope of 
> >>Being in the astral world, one goes wherever one wants to - Um, kinda like 
> >>in "real" life.
> >>
> >>However, it is important to note what one sees with each exploration, most 
> >>of which will take a matter of seconds, popping in and out. If the 
> >>consciousness is clean, it will naturally be experiencing the Celestial 
> >>world, or I suppose, "upper astral". Also, the dynamics are just like 
> >>anything else - with more experience, one has greater discrimination, and 
> >>freedom of motion.
> >>
> >>If the reverse is true, (and one's consciousness is full of "suspended 
> >>solids" - lol), and one forces one's way into the astral, they will 
> >>probably see and meet lower entities. Not necessarily demons and criminals, 
> >>but tricksters and manipulators. This is what is commonly called "the 
> >>astral world" (by dopes like Lenz), but is actually a subset, based on 
> >>limited access.
> >>
> >>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Freebie from Doc:
> >>> 
> >>> This word "astral" that you and Fred use, could be called "ass-tral" - 
> >>> lol, because those that focus on the astral world, vs. Celestial, have a 
> >>> low consciousness. 
> >>> 
> >>> Its like breaking into someone's basement, and really should be avoided 
> >>> for all the trouble it causes. The horror movie makers seem to profit, 
> >>> but that's about it.
> >>> 
> >>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > 
> >>> > 
> >>> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Thanks for this. I've heard similar ideas from tantric 
> >>> > > teacher David Deida. Also I'm thinking that pushing it 
> >>> > > out opens one's aura to astral entities. True? 
> >>> > 
> >>> > I doubt it. I would say, and I know that Rama did 
> >>> > say, that the thing that most opens one up to astral 
> >>> > entities is spending any time whatsoever thinking 
> >>> > about astral entities. What you focus on you become. 
> >>> (schnipp)
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>


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