--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... <no_reply@...> wrote: > > Yeah, I agree - Steve is a stand up guy. I think there is a reason they call > the US Midwest, the Heartland. The coasts are all about edge and growth, but > would not be so if the center was not all about harmony and love, supporting > us "fruits and nuts".
Speak for yourself you quack. I seem to be of the avian variety, I think Barry called me a "loon". Come to think of it, a quack like you is also a bird. I knew birds of a feather flocked... and all of that, but now it becomes clearer. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27" <steve.sundur@> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" <awoelflebater@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long <sharelong60@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Steve has also recently been a generous supporter of yours. Of course > > > > in that case there was no mention of knights on white horses, lack of > > > > intelligence, etc. > > > > > > I like Steve, and have always liked him. He is generous and one of the > > > more humble of the contributors here. I don't always agree with him but I > > > admire the part of him that can laugh at himself, admit error and > > > apologize. As to being a "generous supporter" of mine I am not sure what > > > you are speaking about but I have always found him to carry an intention > > > to be fair and he comes across as good natured. > > > > Thank you for those kind words. > > > > > I am not sure what you mean by your second sentence. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: Ann <awoelflebater@> > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 9:02 AM > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Asstral [was Re: The Use of the Second > > > > Attention, Pros and Cons] > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: > > > > > > > > > > So Judy, any criticisms for Ravi's over the top post below?à> > > > > Right.àI thought not.àEven though it was obviously way over > > > > > the top.àAnd it is the one that prompted Steve to respond to > > > > > Ravi.àBut right, focus on Steve and me and our alleged wrong > > > > > doings.àDredge up the past if need be.àBut definitely ignore > > > > > Ravi's extreme over reaction.àSo much for friend's being able to > > > > > speak frankly with each other.à> > > > > > > > Each to our own opinion on Ravi's post. I found it rather humorous > > > > because it was typical of his style and the playfulness in it felt less > > > > than 'over the top' to me. But I have found that you don't have the > > > > most active sense of humour, especially when something is directed at > > > > you. You like to 'play' but only when it deflects or is a way for you > > > > to skirt around things. Still, you do have your supporter in Steve so > > > > that is nice for you. He is very staunch. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Judy to Ravi in Mission > > > > > Accomplished thread: > > > > > > > > > > Good enough, Ravi, thanks. We should all be able to > > > > > speak frankly to those we care about. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > From: Ravi Chivukula > > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 12:57 PM > > > > > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Asstral [was Re: The Use of the Second > > > > > Attention, Pros and Cons] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > à> > > > > Not clear enough, hmm.. - OK - I'm working on a sign for my door > > > > > > > > > > 1) Leave your fucking platitudes at the doorstep > > > > > 2) Leave your inauthentic bullshit at the doorstep > > > > > 3) Leave your delusional fantasies at the doorstep > > > > > > > > > > Which one do you think is better my beloved Auntie Share? > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Share Long wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >à> > > > > >I shall go forth dearest Ravi but only if we can go hand in hand > > > > > >smiley smile (-: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > > > > > From: Ravi Chivukula > > > > > >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > > > >Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 10:16 AM > > > > > >Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Asstral [was Re: The Use of the Second > > > > > >Attention, Pros and Cons] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >à> > > > > >"The celestial realm is NOT the upper astral according to them." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Oh dear Share - with the above statement the automated platitude > > > > > >detector of FFL has recorded this as your 1 millionth platitude on > > > > > >FFL. You are hereby declared to be the avatar of Mother Saraswati. > > > > > >You no longer need to visit any healers, quantum light weavers - > > > > > >your weaknesses have been reduced to naught in one fell swoop, you > > > > > >have been totally healed - no longer you are one of the billions > > > > > >with positives and negatives. Go forth and start your own cult O' > > > > > >Wise lady. > > > > > > > > > > > >On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 7:26 AM, Share Long wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>à> > > > > >>Doc, I appreciate what you say about astral being a reflection of > > > > > >>consciousness.àWant to add that 2 spiritual teachers I respect > > > > > >>a lot say that there is a definite distinction between the > > > > > >>celestial and astral realms.àThe celestial realm is NOT the > > > > > >>upper astral according to them. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >>________________________________ > > > > > >> From: "doctordumbass@" > > > > > >>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > > > >>Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 9:05 AM > > > > > >>Subject: [FairfieldLife] Asstral [was Re: The Use of the Second > > > > > >>Attention, Pros and Cons] > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >>à> > > > > >>Think of it this way - the astral world, meaning all of it, > > > > > >>parallels our consciousness, like two thermometers, side by side, > > > > > >>each reading the same thing. Astral is a higher vibration than > > > > > >>physical. The sight one gets from practicing Patanjali's sutra, or > > > > > >>by some other means like peyote (ick) or mescaline (ugh) or LSD > > > > > >>(yuck), will bring you into that world, according to your level of > > > > > >>consciousness at the time. > > > > > >> > > > > > >>Those that experience unpleasant entities are merely seeing the > > > > > >>astral manifestation of their consciousness. Astral means the > > > > > >>entire universe of subtle sight. Of course, once a person is > > > > > >>familiar with the full scope of Being in the astral world, one goes > > > > > >>wherever one wants to - Um, kinda like in "real" life. > > > > > >> > > > > > >>However, it is important to note what one sees with each > > > > > >>exploration, most of which will take a matter of seconds, popping > > > > > >>in and out. If the consciousness is clean, it will naturally be > > > > > >>experiencing the Celestial world, or I suppose, "upper astral". > > > > > >>Also, the dynamics are just like anything else - with more > > > > > >>experience, one has greater discrimination, and freedom of motion. > > > > > >> > > > > > >>If the reverse is true, (and one's consciousness is full of > > > > > >>"suspended solids" - lol), and one forces one's way into the > > > > > >>astral, they will probably see and meet lower entities. Not > > > > > >>necessarily demons and criminals, but tricksters and manipulators. > > > > > >>This is what is commonly called "the astral world" (by dopes like > > > > > >>Lenz), but is actually a subset, based on limited access. > > > > > >> > > > > > >>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Freebie from Doc: > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> This word "astral" that you and Fred use, could be called > > > > > >>> "ass-tral" - lol, because those that focus on the astral world, > > > > > >>> vs. Celestial, have a low consciousness. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Its like breaking into someone's basement, and really should be > > > > > >>> avoided for all the trouble it causes. The horror movie makers > > > > > >>> seem to profit, but that's about it. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > Thanks for this. I've heard similar ideas from tantric > > > > > >>> > > teacher David Deida. Also I'm thinking that pushing it > > > > > >>> > > out opens one's aura to astral entities. True? > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > I doubt it. I would say, and I know that Rama did > > > > > >>> > say, that the thing that most opens one up to astral > > > > > >>> > entities is spending any time whatsoever thinking > > > > > >>> > about astral entities. What you focus on you become. > > > > > >>> (schnipp) > > > > > >>> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >