--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" <awoelflebater@...> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long <sharelong60@> wrote:
> >
> > Steve has also recently been a generous supporter of yours.  Of course in 
> > that case there was no mention of knights on white horses, lack of 
> > intelligence, etc.
> 
> I like Steve, and have always liked him. He is generous and one of the more 
> humble of the contributors here. I don't always agree with him but I admire 
> the part of him that can laugh at himself, admit error and apologize. As to 
> being a "generous supporter" of mine I am not sure what you are speaking 
> about but I have always found him to carry an intention to be fair and he 
> comes across as good natured. 

Thank you for those kind words.
 
> I am not sure what you mean by your second sentence.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ________________________________
> >  From: Ann <awoelflebater@>
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 9:02 AM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Asstral [was Re: The Use of the Second Attention, 
> > Pros and Cons]
> >  
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > >
> > > So Judy, any criticisms for Ravi's over the top post below?  Right. 
> > >  I thought not.  Even though it was obviously way over the top.  
> > > And it is the one that prompted Steve to respond to Ravi.  But right, 
> > > focus on Steve and me and our alleged wrong doings.  Dredge up the 
> > > past if need be.  But definitely ignore Ravi's extreme over 
> > > reaction.  So much for friend's being able to speak frankly with each 
> > > other.  
> > 
> > Each to our own opinion on Ravi's post. I found it rather humorous because 
> > it was typical of his style and the playfulness in it felt less than 'over 
> > the top' to me. But I have found that you don't have the most active sense 
> > of humour, especially when something is directed at you. You like to 'play' 
> > but only when it deflects or is a way for you to skirt around things. 
> > Still, you do have your supporter in Steve so that is nice for you. He is 
> > very staunch.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Judy to Ravi in Mission
> > >  Accomplished thread:
> > > 
> > > Good enough, Ravi, thanks. We should all be able to
> > > speak frankly to those we care about.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ________________________________
> > >  From: Ravi Chivukula 
> > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 12:57 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Asstral [was Re: The Use of the Second 
> > > Attention, Pros and Cons]
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   
> > > Not clear enough, hmm.. - OK - I'm working on a sign for my door
> > > 
> > > 1) Leave your fucking platitudes at the doorstep
> > > 2) Leave your inauthentic bullshit at the doorstep
> > > 3) Leave your delusional fantasies at the doorstep
> > > 
> > > Which one do you think is better my beloved Auntie Share?
> > > 
> > > On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Share Long  wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > >  
> > > >I shall go forth dearest Ravi but only if we can go hand in hand smiley 
> > > >smile (-:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >________________________________
> > > > From: Ravi Chivukula 
> > > >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > > >Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 10:16 AM
> > > >Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Asstral [was Re: The Use of the Second 
> > > >Attention, Pros and Cons]
> > > > 
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  
> > > >"The celestial realm is NOT the upper astral according to them."
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Oh dear Share - with the above statement the automated platitude 
> > > >detector of FFL has recorded this as your 1 millionth platitude on FFL. 
> > > >You are hereby declared to be the avatar of Mother Saraswati. You no 
> > > >longer need to visit any healers, quantum light weavers - your 
> > > >weaknesses have been reduced to naught in one fell swoop, you have been 
> > > >totally healed - no longer you are one of the billions with positives 
> > > >and negatives. Go forth and start your own cult O' Wise lady.
> > > >
> > > >On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 7:26 AM, Share Long  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > >>  
> > > >>Doc, I appreciate what you say about astral being a reflection of 
> > > >>consciousness.  Want to add that 2 spiritual teachers I respect a 
> > > >>lot say that there is a definite distinction between the celestial and 
> > > >>astral realms.  The celestial realm is NOT the upper astral 
> > > >>according to them.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>________________________________
> > > >> From: "doctordumbass@" 
> > > >>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > > >>Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 9:05 AM
> > > >>Subject: [FairfieldLife] Asstral [was Re: The Use of the Second 
> > > >>Attention, Pros and Cons]
> > > >> 
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>  
> > > >>Think of it this way - the astral world, meaning all of it, parallels 
> > > >>our consciousness, like two thermometers, side by side, each reading 
> > > >>the same thing. Astral is a higher vibration than physical. The sight 
> > > >>one gets from practicing Patanjali's sutra, or by some other means like 
> > > >>peyote (ick) or mescaline (ugh) or LSD (yuck), will bring you into that 
> > > >>world, according to your level of consciousness at the time. 
> > > >>
> > > >>Those that experience unpleasant entities are merely seeing the astral 
> > > >>manifestation of their consciousness. Astral means the entire universe 
> > > >>of subtle sight. Of course, once a person is familiar with the full 
> > > >>scope of Being in the astral world, one goes wherever one wants to - 
> > > >>Um, kinda like in "real" life.
> > > >>
> > > >>However, it is important to note what one sees with each exploration, 
> > > >>most of which will take a matter of seconds, popping in and out. If the 
> > > >>consciousness is clean, it will naturally be experiencing the Celestial 
> > > >>world, or I suppose, "upper astral". Also, the dynamics are just like 
> > > >>anything else - with more experience, one has greater discrimination, 
> > > >>and freedom of motion.
> > > >>
> > > >>If the reverse is true, (and one's consciousness is full of "suspended 
> > > >>solids" - lol), and one forces one's way into the astral, they will 
> > > >>probably see and meet lower entities. Not necessarily demons and 
> > > >>criminals, but tricksters and manipulators. This is what is commonly 
> > > >>called "the astral world" (by dopes like Lenz), but is actually a 
> > > >>subset, based on limited access.
> > > >>
> > > >>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Freebie from Doc:
> > > >>> 
> > > >>> This word "astral" that you and Fred use, could be called "ass-tral" 
> > > >>> - lol, because those that focus on the astral world, vs. Celestial, 
> > > >>> have a low consciousness. 
> > > >>> 
> > > >>> Its like breaking into someone's basement, and really should be 
> > > >>> avoided for all the trouble it causes. The horror movie makers seem 
> > > >>> to profit, but that's about it.
> > > >>> 
> > > >>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > 
> > > >>> > 
> > > >>> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > > Thanks for this. I've heard similar ideas from tantric 
> > > >>> > > teacher David Deida. Also I'm thinking that pushing it 
> > > >>> > > out opens one's aura to astral entities. True? 
> > > >>> > 
> > > >>> > I doubt it. I would say, and I know that Rama did 
> > > >>> > say, that the thing that most opens one up to astral 
> > > >>> > entities is spending any time whatsoever thinking 
> > > >>> > about astral entities. What you focus on you become. 
> > > >>> (schnipp)
> > > >>>
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