--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" <awoelflebater@...> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long <sharelong60@> wrote: > > > > Steve has also recently been a generous supporter of yours. Of course in > > that case there was no mention of knights on white horses, lack of > > intelligence, etc. > > I like Steve, and have always liked him. He is generous and one of the more > humble of the contributors here. I don't always agree with him but I admire > the part of him that can laugh at himself, admit error and apologize. As to > being a "generous supporter" of mine I am not sure what you are speaking > about but I have always found him to carry an intention to be fair and he > comes across as good natured.
Thank you for those kind words. > I am not sure what you mean by your second sentence. > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Ann <awoelflebater@> > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 9:02 AM > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Asstral [was Re: The Use of the Second Attention, > > Pros and Cons] > > > > > > Â > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: > > > > > > So Judy, any criticisms for Ravi's over the top post below?ÃÂ Right.ÃÂ > > > I thought not.ÃÂ Even though it was obviously way over the top.ÃÂ > > > And it is the one that prompted Steve to respond to Ravi.ÃÂ But right, > > > focus on Steve and me and our alleged wrong doings.ÃÂ Dredge up the > > > past if need be.ÃÂ But definitely ignore Ravi's extreme over > > > reaction.ÃÂ So much for friend's being able to speak frankly with each > > > other.ÃÂ > > > > Each to our own opinion on Ravi's post. I found it rather humorous because > > it was typical of his style and the playfulness in it felt less than 'over > > the top' to me. But I have found that you don't have the most active sense > > of humour, especially when something is directed at you. You like to 'play' > > but only when it deflects or is a way for you to skirt around things. > > Still, you do have your supporter in Steve so that is nice for you. He is > > very staunch. > > > > > > > > > Judy to Ravi in Mission > > > Accomplished thread: > > > > > > Good enough, Ravi, thanks. We should all be able to > > > speak frankly to those we care about. > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: Ravi Chivukula > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 12:57 PM > > > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Asstral [was Re: The Use of the Second > > > Attention, Pros and Cons] > > > > > > > > > ÃÂ > > > Not clear enough, hmm.. - OK - I'm working on a sign for my door > > > > > > 1) Leave your fucking platitudes at the doorstep > > > 2) Leave your inauthentic bullshit at the doorstep > > > 3) Leave your delusional fantasies at the doorstep > > > > > > Which one do you think is better my beloved Auntie Share? > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Share Long wrote: > > > > > > > > > >ÃÂ > > > >I shall go forth dearest Ravi but only if we can go hand in hand smiley > > > >smile (-: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > > > From: Ravi Chivukula > > > >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > >Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 10:16 AM > > > >Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Asstral [was Re: The Use of the Second > > > >Attention, Pros and Cons] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >ÃÂ > > > >"The celestial realm is NOT the upper astral according to them." > > > > > > > > > > > >Oh dear Share - with the above statement the automated platitude > > > >detector of FFL has recorded this as your 1 millionth platitude on FFL. > > > >You are hereby declared to be the avatar of Mother Saraswati. You no > > > >longer need to visit any healers, quantum light weavers - your > > > >weaknesses have been reduced to naught in one fell swoop, you have been > > > >totally healed - no longer you are one of the billions with positives > > > >and negatives. Go forth and start your own cult O' Wise lady. > > > > > > > >On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 7:26 AM, Share Long wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >>ÃÂ > > > >>Doc, I appreciate what you say about astral being a reflection of > > > >>consciousness.ÃÂ Want to add that 2 spiritual teachers I respect a > > > >>lot say that there is a definite distinction between the celestial and > > > >>astral realms.ÃÂ The celestial realm is NOT the upper astral > > > >>according to them. > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>________________________________ > > > >> From: "doctordumbass@" > > > >>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > >>Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 9:05 AM > > > >>Subject: [FairfieldLife] Asstral [was Re: The Use of the Second > > > >>Attention, Pros and Cons] > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>ÃÂ > > > >>Think of it this way - the astral world, meaning all of it, parallels > > > >>our consciousness, like two thermometers, side by side, each reading > > > >>the same thing. Astral is a higher vibration than physical. The sight > > > >>one gets from practicing Patanjali's sutra, or by some other means like > > > >>peyote (ick) or mescaline (ugh) or LSD (yuck), will bring you into that > > > >>world, according to your level of consciousness at the time. > > > >> > > > >>Those that experience unpleasant entities are merely seeing the astral > > > >>manifestation of their consciousness. Astral means the entire universe > > > >>of subtle sight. Of course, once a person is familiar with the full > > > >>scope of Being in the astral world, one goes wherever one wants to - > > > >>Um, kinda like in "real" life. > > > >> > > > >>However, it is important to note what one sees with each exploration, > > > >>most of which will take a matter of seconds, popping in and out. If the > > > >>consciousness is clean, it will naturally be experiencing the Celestial > > > >>world, or I suppose, "upper astral". Also, the dynamics are just like > > > >>anything else - with more experience, one has greater discrimination, > > > >>and freedom of motion. > > > >> > > > >>If the reverse is true, (and one's consciousness is full of "suspended > > > >>solids" - lol), and one forces one's way into the astral, they will > > > >>probably see and meet lower entities. Not necessarily demons and > > > >>criminals, but tricksters and manipulators. This is what is commonly > > > >>called "the astral world" (by dopes like Lenz), but is actually a > > > >>subset, based on limited access. > > > >> > > > >>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>> Freebie from Doc: > > > >>> > > > >>> This word "astral" that you and Fred use, could be called "ass-tral" > > > >>> - lol, because those that focus on the astral world, vs. Celestial, > > > >>> have a low consciousness. > > > >>> > > > >>> Its like breaking into someone's basement, and really should be > > > >>> avoided for all the trouble it causes. The horror movie makers seem > > > >>> to profit, but that's about it. > > > >>> > > > >>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > Thanks for this. I've heard similar ideas from tantric > > > >>> > > teacher David Deida. Also I'm thinking that pushing it > > > >>> > > out opens one's aura to astral entities. True? > > > >>> > > > > >>> > I doubt it. I would say, and I know that Rama did > > > >>> > say, that the thing that most opens one up to astral > > > >>> > entities is spending any time whatsoever thinking > > > >>> > about astral entities. What you focus on you become. > > > >>> (schnipp) > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >