On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 7:21 AM, Share Long <sharelon...@yahoo.com> wrote:

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> Ravi, given the interconnectedness of all life, I'm guessing that whoever
> and whereever she is, your true love can feel the energy and vibration of
> these kinds of expressions of yours.  Are they drawing her to you?  Would
> any of the 3 signs below entice her to even knock on your door?  So, why
> don't you choose which one you think is better.
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All 3 dear Share - it would be awesome for her to be vulnerable, authentic
and free of delusional fantasies. But you have to realize I don't have any
instruments that immediately detect this and I have every time in the past
fallen in love before my intellectual process kicked in. Perhaps future may
be different but I haven't gotten over the incredibly complex, exhausting,
intense last one so it's not like I'm on prowl. So nothing is possible
without the grace of the existence aligning with my desire. My behavior
with a woman whom I would love is completely different - so your question
is pointless. I have talked of my confrontations in my post to Steve - it's
not like I am desperate, acting out of some pathological need to violate,
confront someone - it often arises from watching people like you. Many
times totally spontaneous, completely bypassing my intellect - it's not
something I artificially construct, though I practice experimenting,
visualizing and exploring all kinds of situations and responses - much like
an actor.

Anyway clever change of topic - my main post was of your use of endless
platitudes as your primary mode of communication and inauthentic exchanges
of feel good pleasantries - it arouses a complex set of emotions including
aggravation, hilarity among others. Of course you have cleverly avoided all
that.

You show a complete lack of integrity by supporting Steve's slanderous
allegations and doubling down by some sort of weird moral posturing and
condemnation of some fictional ganging up on FFL.

So let's revert to the main topic if you are interested - in this case your
mention of astral, celestial planes - which I referred to as platitudes and
delusional beliefs and inauthentic response to my challenge.


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> *From:* Ravi Chivukula <chivukula.r...@gmail.com>
> *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 19, 2013 12:57 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Asstral [was Re: The Use of the Second
> Attention, Pros and Cons]
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> Not clear enough, hmm.. - OK - I'm working on a sign for my door
>
> 1) Leave your fucking platitudes at the doorstep
> 2) Leave your inauthentic bullshit at the doorstep
> 3) Leave your delusional fantasies at the doorstep
>
> Which one do you think is better my beloved Auntie Share?
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> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Share Long <sharelon...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> **
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>  I shall go forth dearest Ravi but only if we can go hand in hand smiley
> smile (-:
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> *From:* Ravi Chivukula <chivukula.r...@gmail.com>
> *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 19, 2013 10:16 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Asstral [was Re: The Use of the Second
> Attention, Pros and Cons]
>
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> "The celestial realm is NOT the upper astral according to them."
>
> Oh dear Share - with the above statement the automated platitude detector
> of FFL has recorded this as your 1 millionth platitude on FFL. You are
> hereby declared to be the avatar of Mother Saraswati. You no longer need to
> visit any healers, quantum light weavers - your weaknesses have been
> reduced to naught in one fell swoop, you have been totally healed - no
> longer you are one of the billions with positives and negatives. Go forth
> and start your own cult O' Wise lady.
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> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 7:26 AM, Share Long <sharelon...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>  Doc, I appreciate what you say about astral being a reflection of
> consciousness.  Want to add that 2 spiritual teachers I respect a lot say
> that there is a definite distinction between the celestial and astral
> realms.  The celestial realm is NOT the upper astral according to them.
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> *From:* "doctordumb...@rocketmail.com" <doctordumb...@rocketmail.com>
> *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 19, 2013 9:05 AM
> *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Asstral [was Re: The Use of the Second
> Attention, Pros and Cons]
>
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> Think of it this way - the astral world, meaning all of it, parallels our
> consciousness, like two thermometers, side by side, each reading the same
> thing. Astral is a higher vibration than physical. The sight one gets from
> practicing Patanjali's sutra, or by some other means like peyote (ick) or
> mescaline (ugh) or LSD (yuck), will bring you into that world, according to
> your level of consciousness at the time.
>
> Those that experience unpleasant entities are merely seeing the astral
> manifestation of their consciousness. Astral means the entire universe of
> subtle sight. Of course, once a person is familiar with the full scope of
> Being in the astral world, one goes wherever one wants to - Um, kinda like
> in "real" life.
>
> However, it is important to note what one sees with each exploration, most
> of which will take a matter of seconds, popping in and out. If the
> consciousness is clean, it will naturally be experiencing the Celestial
> world, or I suppose, "upper astral". Also, the dynamics are just like
> anything else - with more experience, one has greater discrimination, and
> freedom of motion.
>
> If the reverse is true, (and one's consciousness is full of "suspended
> solids" - lol), and one forces one's way into the astral, they will
> probably see and meet lower entities. Not necessarily demons and criminals,
> but tricksters and manipulators. This is what is commonly called "the
> astral world" (by dopes like Lenz), but is actually a subset, based on
> limited access.
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote:
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> > Freebie from Doc:
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> > This word "astral" that you and Fred use, could be called "ass-tral" -
> lol, because those that focus on the astral world, vs. Celestial, have a
> low consciousness.
> >
> > Its like breaking into someone's basement, and really should be avoided
> for all the trouble it causes. The horror movie makers seem to profit, but
> that's about it.
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote:
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> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for this. I've heard similar ideas from tantric
> > > > teacher David Deida. Also I'm thinking that pushing it
> > > > out opens one's aura to astral entities. True?
> > >
> > > I doubt it. I would say, and I know that Rama did
> > > say, that the thing that most opens one up to astral
> > > entities is spending any time whatsoever thinking
> > > about astral entities. What you focus on you become.
> > (schnipp)
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