--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <feste37@...> wrote:
>
> Ann's question should really have been directed at Xeno, since, as Share
> accurately states here, she was "reflecting back" to him "what he himself
> expressed." So it was his idea, not Share's, so Share is not being at all
> evasive in not answering it.
You might be right Feste but I read her response not as a "reflection back", it
was unclear to me if that was what it was. But I still would be interested in
how Share would react to such news. It's interesting to me to see how different
people see the world and something as significant as a cancer diagnosis. There
seem to be various states of consciousness prevalent in our posters and since I
figure I'm in plain old ignorance it is fascinating to hear what other states
are characterized by. It was never about proving anything, just discovering
something. I, personally, would probably faint dead away with the announcement
of a deadly illness.
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <authfriend@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long <sharelong60@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I was reflecting back to Xeno what he himself expressed.
> >
> > You must not have read Ann's question. It was, "And you
> > really, experientially believe that?"
> >
> > > Nice try though.
> >
> > What does that mean? Try to what?
> >
> > > Face it, Ann, you and Emily just don't get me at all.
> >
> > Face it, Share, if folks "don't get" you it's because you
> > refuse to reply directly and without evasion when they ask
> > you about something, as Ann just did and as both Emily and
> > Ann have countless times. You *make sure* they don't "get
> > you" and then pretend it's somehow their fault.
> >
> > > And probably I don't get you two either. That's why I
> > > generally choose not to engage with you two.
> >
> > If you were willing to engage honestly, you might find
> > that they would "get" you and you would "get" them. Why
> > are you so afraid to do that? What are you trying to
> > hide? What don't you want them to "get"?
> >
> > > It's pointless.
> >
> > You make sure it's pointless.
> >
> > Now I have a question (which you won't answer). Why do you
> > frequently leave out articles ("Glad result was nonmalignant")?
> > Do you think it makes you look smart or cool, or what? It isn't
> > just to save time, because it doesn't take that much time to
> > type in three letters--and because you often *do* use articles.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > From: Ann <awoelflebater@>
> > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 4:48 PM
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Capitalization, on FFL
> > >
> > >
> > > Â
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Glad result was non malignant.ÃÂ Even though on one level malignant
> > > > would have been ok too
> > >
> > > And you really, experientially believe that? That you could pull off that
> > > statement when faced with that kind of grim diagnosis? I say very, very
> > > few people could stand there and shrug it off, no corresponding shot of
> > > adrenaline hitting you like a sledgehammer as you hear those words. Just
> > > standing there with a sublime, accepting beatific expression on your face
> > > thinking, "This is ok too..."
> > > >
> > > > For me that not worrying is also a kind of almost dumb trustingness.ÃÂ
> > > > So there is an emotional quality to it but not mushy gushy emotions
> > > > like before.ÃÂ Because every emotion contains its opposite.ÃÂ Like
> > > > two waves canceling each other out.ÃÂ They both are still there, only
> > > > still, vibrating with possibility.ÃÂ At first it can seem very odd
> > > > indeed, but then it's fun.ÃÂ And a blessing.ÃÂ What a great gift it
> > > > has been for me to have a sense of humor emerge just as the body is
> > > > falling apart (-:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius
> > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 3:10 PM
> > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Capitalization, on FFL
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ÃÂ
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Xeno, I bet you can appreciate this: last week my best friend and
> > > > > > I were laughing our heads off because we both thought we were
> > > > > > having heart attacks. On the same day!
> > > > >
> > > > > > But you perhaps unintentionally raise a good question: is it
> > > > > > better to live miserably or die happily? Meanwhile I say enjoy the
> > > > > > cunning philosophers who think up such questions to entertain the
> > > > > > body mind on a wintry day.
> > > > >
> > > > > > But Xeno what about this sentence: The cat is the cat. Such a
> > > > > > sentence seems to be self contained and thus not needing any
> > > > > > sensory experience to support its validity. Its internal logic
> > > > > > validates it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes, this is a tautology. A statement that is always true. Self
> > > > > validating. The form is 'x = x'. X can be anything, real or
> > > > > imaginary. It is not a proposition because it expresses nothing. It
> > > > > is empty. Like enlightenment, 'selling water by the river' as the Zen
> > > > > master said. True, but nothing to it.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Which is kind of what happens with Beingness. It is self
> > > > > > validating. There is simply the living of it. Yes, it is very
> > > > > > difficult to put into words. And I do think a lot of long term
> > > > > > TMers are at this stage now. They are simply living Beingness.
> > > > > > With little or no thinking about it. And they are experiencing it
> > > > > > as the most ordinary thing there is. The most transparent thing
> > > > > > there is. Both the most strong and the most vulnerable thing there
> > > > > > is. And then one can only laugh one's head off at the absurdity of
> > > > > > it all. Which I think FFL perfectly mirrors (-:
> > > > >
> > > > > Indeed.
> > > > >
> > > > Additionally (I wrote something earlier and Yahoo's software sent my
> > > > response into the aether and giving me an error message), there is the
> > > > phrase 'The Absolute Being' (appropriately and imposingly captialised),
> > > > which as we become spiritually aware, instigates a search far and wide
> > > > for that which is at all times in plain sight, hidden in total
> > > > obviousness, as we puff ourselves up with our discoveries along the
> > > > path which we think is there. Finally, the bubble bursts and all is
> > > > well.
> > > >
> > > > Speaking of heart attacks. I was in the hospital the other week. A
> > > > biopsy. The following week I went to the doctor's office, as they had
> > > > not called. A nurse, the 'clinical supervisor' had to figure out the
> > > > results from the report as the doctor was on vacation. I do not know
> > > > what she was thinking, but I was just standing there knowing that the
> > > > result was either malignant or not malignant, but it did not matter
> > > > which because one result or the other was the only outcome, and which
> > > > ever one, the course that followed was inevitable and there was no
> > > > arguing with either way. This is why it is called 'the absolute being'.
> > > > As it turned out, it was not malignant, but still there might be some
> > > > consequences, which I have not yet been told. The mind did not go into
> > > > a routine like 'oh no, I hope it is not that'. I was just standing
> > > > there thinking, 'this is really fascinating, I wonder which way it will
> > > > be!', as if there was some new discovery about life to unfold.
> > > >
> > > > The absence of worry about the future seems to be one of the major
> > > > benefits of spirituality as it matures, not because you believe
> > > > something will be a certain way, but because there really is no choice
> > > > about which way will manifest. You just get to live the way it goes,
> > > > and the mind no longer imposes its interpretation (at least most of the
> > > > time), on the situation coming forward. Rather the mind becomes a tool
> > > > to navigate what is happening rather than an obstacle to what is
> > > > happening, resiting what is transpiring in an attempt to maintain an
> > > > unrealistic world view.
> > > >
> > >
> >
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