Whoops, I didn't finish my sentence. ...."and learn to respect others."
>________________________________ > From: Emily Reyn <emilymae.r...@yahoo.com> >To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> >Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 10:17 PM >Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Capitalization, on FFL > > >Dear Share, putting forth effort to communicate with those that think >differently from you is never pointless, IMHO. I find it instructive; it >gives me an opportunity to learn different ways to relate, build self-respect, >and Why don't you think I "get you?" Can you provide me with a specific >example? In the example you cite, I didn't respond, Ann did, yet you wrapped >me in to that post. You might be surprised at what I might "get," if you >would be willing to try to engage honestly. I will do my best to be honest as >well. You say you "probably don't get Ann or I either." What do you mean >when you say "probably?" > > > >>________________________________ >> From: Share Long <sharelon...@yahoo.com> >>To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> >>Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 2:55 PM >>Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Capitalization, on FFL >> >> >> >>I was reflecting back to Xeno what he himself expressed. Nice try though. >>Face it, Ann, you and Emily just don't get me at all. And probably I don't >>get you two either. That's why I generally choose not to engage with you >>two. It's pointless. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>________________________________ >> From: Ann <awoelfleba...@yahoo.com> >>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com >>Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 4:48 PM >>Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Capitalization, on FFL >> >> >> >> >> >>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: >>> >>> Glad result was non malignant. Even though on one level malignant would >>> have been ok too >> >>And you really, experientially believe that? That you could pull off that >>statement when faced with that kind of grim diagnosis? I say very, very few >>people could stand there and shrug it off, no corresponding shot of >>adrenaline hitting you like a sledgehammer as you hear those words. Just >>standing there with a sublime, accepting beatific expression on your face >>thinking, "This is ok too..." >>> >>> For me that not worrying is also a kind of almost dumb trustingness. So >>> there is an emotional quality to it but not mushy gushy emotions like >>> before. Because every emotion contains its opposite. Like two waves >>> canceling each other out. They both are still there, only still, >>> vibrating with possibility. At first it can seem very odd indeed, but >>> then it's fun. And a blessing. What a great gift it has been for me to >>> have a sense of humor emerge just as the body is falling apart (-: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius >>> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 3:10 PM >>> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Capitalization, on FFL >>> >>> >>>  >>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" wrote: >>> > >>> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: >>> > > >>> > > Xeno, I bet you can appreciate this: last week my best friend and I >>> > > were laughing our heads off because we both thought we were having >>> > > heart attacks. On the same day! >>> > >>> > > But you perhaps unintentionally raise a good question: is it better to >>> > > live miserably or die happily? Meanwhile I say enjoy the cunning >>> > > philosophers who think up such questions to entertain the body mind on >>> > > a wintry day. >>> > >>> > > But Xeno what about this sentence: The cat is the cat. Such a >>> > > sentence seems to be self contained and thus not needing any sensory >>> > > experience to support its validity. Its internal logic validates it. >>> > >>> > Yes, this is a tautology. A statement that is always true. Self >>> > validating. The form is 'x = x'. X can be anything, real or imaginary. It >>> > is not a proposition because it expresses nothing. It is empty. Like >>> > enlightenment, 'selling water by the river' as the Zen master said. True, >>> > but nothing to it. >>> > >>> > > Which is kind of what happens with Beingness. It is self validating. >>> > > There is simply the living of it. Yes, it is very difficult to put >>> > > into words. And I do think a lot of long term TMers are at this stage >>> > > now. They are simply living Beingness. With little or no thinking >>> > > about it. And they are experiencing it as the most ordinary thing >>> > > there is. The most transparent thing there is. Both the most strong >>> > > and the most vulnerable thing there is. And then one can only laugh >>> > > one's head off at the absurdity of it all. Which I think FFL perfectly >>> > > mirrors (-: >>> > >>> > Indeed. >>> > >>> Additionally (I wrote something earlier and Yahoo's software sent my >>> response into the aether and giving me an error message), there is the >>> phrase 'The Absolute Being' (appropriately and imposingly captialised), >>> which as we become spiritually aware, instigates a search far and wide for >>> that which is at all times in plain sight, hidden in total obviousness, as >>> we puff ourselves up with our discoveries along the path which we think is >>> there. Finally, the bubble bursts and all is well. >>> >>> Speaking of heart attacks. I was in the hospital the other week. A biopsy. >>> The following week I went to the doctor's office, as they had not called. A >>> nurse, the 'clinical supervisor' had to figure out the results from the >>> report as the doctor was on vacation. I do not know what she was thinking, >>> but I was just standing there knowing that the result was either malignant >>> or not malignant, but it did not matter which because one result or the >>> other was the only outcome, and which ever one, the course that followed >>> was inevitable and there was no arguing with either way. This is why it is >>> called 'the absolute being'. As it turned out, it was not malignant, but >>> still there might be some consequences, which I have not yet been told. The >>> mind did not go into a routine like 'oh no, I hope it is not that'. I was >>> just standing there thinking, 'this is really fascinating, I wonder which >>> way it will be!', as if there was some new discovery about life to unfold. >>> >>> The absence of worry about the future seems to be one of the major benefits >>> of spirituality as it matures, not because you believe something will be a >>> certain way, but because there really is no choice about which way will >>> manifest. You just get to live the way it goes, and the mind no longer >>> imposes its interpretation (at least most of the time), on the situation >>> coming forward. Rather the mind becomes a tool to navigate what is >>> happening rather than an obstacle to what is happening, resiting what is >>> transpiring in an attempt to maintain an unrealistic world view. >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
