I started TM Dec. 7th, 1974 - was a real starry eyed TM'er for a few years - took my first residence course somewhere around April of 1975 and LOVED it.
Got my TM med checked once a week for the first month and once a month for the first year as per the instruction of the time - did a few more residence courses in Atlanta and Charleston SC. LOVED them (except the one taught by that jack-ass Gene Speigel. Was wowed to hear of the sidhis in spring of 1976 - lusted after them and did 6 weeks of sidhi preps and worked paid for 2 weeks I think and worked for the credit to take the others working for the governors who taught the sidhi prep courses in North Carolina. Finally got the sidhis in I forget what year - it was the year after Marshy had all the TM teachers over to India. Wound up doing a two year incarceration at MIU in kitchen services - in charge of the serving and dining areas first then got into the bakery and ran the bakery for a year. Got kicked out in July of 1987 and went back to SC - had had enough of the Movement but still thought I might like to round once in awhile - but in the 1990's the crap I was hearing out of Heavenly Mountain was enough to open my eyes and heart to the fact that I could no longer support or be involved with an organization like the TM Movement - not with my time, effort, energy and money. Then a year or so I began to process some of the unprocessed energy I had around TM and found this group and discovered the TMO and Mar-chee were so much darker and more screwed up than I ever imagined. I continued to use the TM mantra pretty regularly till about 1996 when I got the Chopra mantra, used both back and forth for a while then eased of the TM mantra probably 1998 and did other stuff. That's it in a nutshell but I will share more details if you like. ________________________________ From: Carol <jchwe...@gmail.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 10:34 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM Critics on FFL - the blind "leading" the sighted Michael, if you don't mind me asking, how long have you been out of the TM movement and how long were you involved? (You probably shared that on here somewhere. If you have a link to where you shared, I'd like to read it as time allows.) I was involved in a group (not TM) for 28 years. I left the group in 2005. It was a big deal, leaving... and I wrote a lot...a lot. I actually wrote a lot before I left writing my way out of the group (in private journals). After I left, I began to write publicly. I'm not sure why that is and have wondered about it - why one writes publicly about their experiences. Anyway..I'd be interested to read more about your story if you care to link or share. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > > > On second thought, you are right Dr Dummy - I hereby announce that I > > officially revoke everything I said about Marshy and TM and I am gonna > > program my Ipod to play only that goddamn funny, funny Maharishi Vedic > > Honey video over and over and over - I hope one day to wear the white > > (meaning become a raja) Jai Guru Dr. Dumbass!!! > > Hey MJ. I will throw my small thought into the mix here. I have read and > appreciated much of what you have written of your experiences at MIU, within > the various phases of your different roles within the Movement as a > meditator, member of staff and all the other ways in which you participated. > I especially enjoyed reading what you had to say a few months ago when you > first started posting about your > disappointment/disillusionment/disgruntlement with MMY and with many others > in positions of power and authority within the TMM. Although I was a > meditator for almost 20 years and graduated from MIU I have no hard feelings > about my time there or the technique. However, this does not stop me from > considering all that you have to say about your own, very different, > experience. And it does not mean I don't respect and consider all that you > have to say as far as I can do that without having gone through or seen what > you did. > > I am not sure how much further you can go with your unearthing of the slimier > aspects of what has gone on within the movement and around MMY and even with > MMY himself. I, for one, have a pretty clear picture of what you know and how > you feel. Your audience has been reading what you have to say for weeks now > and I am pretty sure we could, individually, write an essay on how MJ feels > about MMY and the Movement and the practice of TM. What is happening now is > that some are getting tired of reading, of being exposed to, what is starting > to sound a little like a broken record. What you have to say isn't going > anywhere past where it has been for a while now. It is evidently important to > you to use this forum, and other places, as a sounding board for how you > feel. But it seems as if you are having to defend your position a little > harder now, that there is not the same empathy or support for your position. > It seems you are starting to look like a man standing alone on a hilltop defending his patch of land to an ever-increasing number of those unsympathetic to your 'cause'. > > I am not saying that what you have to say is less valid than it was three > months ago it is just that if you test the wind direction and the barometer > it is telling you your audience here is not quite as receptive to your > message as it once was. This is, of course, only my opinion. I respect your > need to voice how you feel and admire your courage to do just that but I > think I have gotten the message now. > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: "doctordumbass@" > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 8:35 PM > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] TM Critics on FFL - the blind "leading" the sighted > > > > > > Â > > Just such a strange thing, that the fiercest critics of TM on here, are > > those with no recent experience of the technique. Sure, they had their > > heyday - a few decades ago. > > > > Now, looking back hazily on those times, they stand up as those to be > > believed, the DEFINITIVE VOICES regarding the technique, its founder, and > > any other pearls that spew forth. Its just so much tripe. > > > > Being ordinarily skeptical, doubting stuff I am told, is second nature to > > me - an excellent survival tool, imo. So I can appreciate airing doubts > > about...anything. However, how long does it take to integrate something > > THAT YOU NO LONGER PRACTICE into your life? Why the public fixation on > > something that no longer has value to you? > > > > Are you warning us? (how condescending) > > > > Are you saving us? (how laughable) > > > > Are you opening our eyes? (see above) > > > > Why are you *devoting* your time and thought, to something you no longer do? > > > > Color me Puzzled. > > >
