--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote: > > Om, Micheal is doing a real fine job of sorting it out. One at a time a lot > of people have gone through this before him about TM. In Fairfield some > remained and some lot have left in doing this. And some still have not gone > through it for themselves. MJ's a good spirit filled with virtue. He's one > of the more interesting to come along doing this in his asking more > particularly after the conscience of people still involved with TM as he > catches up and examines things [controversial] as the David Lynch NYTimes > article alludes to. That is fair game in truth and that is going to dog TM > regardless of whether it is MJ or someone else coming along looking. > Evidently MJ is not done though. He has not yet really reconciled things > repenting enough or proved himself applying to come back to the group > meditation. Yet in some grief he evidently has more work to do around the > shadow of TM. I hope and wish the best for him. I look forward to a day when > he will be back meditating with us.
Nicely stated Buck, except you have totally missed what Michael is all about if you think, for one second, that he will ever be back meditating with you in the Dome or in the desert. > -Buck > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Carol" <jchwelch@> wrote: > > > > Michael, if you don't mind me asking, how long have you been out of the TM > > movement and how long were you involved? (You probably shared that on here > > somewhere. If you have a link to where you shared, I'd like to read it as > > time allows.) > > > > I was involved in a group (not TM) for 28 years. I left the group in 2005. > > It was a big deal, leaving... and I wrote a lot...a lot. I actually wrote > > a lot before I left writing my way out of the group (in private journals). > > After I left, I began to write publicly. I'm not sure why that is and have > > wondered about it - why one writes publicly about their experiences. > > Anyway..I'd be interested to read more about your story if you care to link > > or share. > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" <awoelflebater@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson <mjackson74@> wrote: > > > > > > > > On second thought, you are right Dr Dummy - I hereby announce that I > > > > officially revoke everything I said about Marshy and TM and I am gonna > > > > program my Ipod to play only that goddamn funny, funny Maharishi Vedic > > > > Honey video over and over and over - I hope one day to wear the white > > > > (meaning become a raja) Jai Guru Dr. Dumbass!!! > > > > > > Hey MJ. I will throw my small thought into the mix here. I have read and > > > appreciated much of what you have written of your experiences at MIU, > > > within the various phases of your different roles within the Movement as > > > a meditator, member of staff and all the other ways in which you > > > participated. I especially enjoyed reading what you had to say a few > > > months ago when you first started posting about your > > > disappointment/disillusionment/disgruntlement with MMY and with many > > > others in positions of power and authority within the TMM. Although I was > > > a meditator for almost 20 years and graduated from MIU I have no hard > > > feelings about my time there or the technique. However, this does not > > > stop me from considering all that you have to say about your own, very > > > different, experience. And it does not mean I don't respect and consider > > > all that you have to say as far as I can do that without having gone > > > through or seen what you did. > > > > > > I am not sure how much further you can go with your unearthing of the > > > slimier aspects of what has gone on within the movement and around MMY > > > and even with MMY himself. I, for one, have a pretty clear picture of > > > what you know and how you feel. Your audience has been reading what you > > > have to say for weeks now and I am pretty sure we could, individually, > > > write an essay on how MJ feels about MMY and the Movement and the > > > practice of TM. What is happening now is that some are getting tired of > > > reading, of being exposed to, what is starting to sound a little like a > > > broken record. What you have to say isn't going anywhere past where it > > > has been for a while now. It is evidently important to you to use this > > > forum, and other places, as a sounding board for how you feel. But it > > > seems as if you are having to defend your position a little harder now, > > > that there is not the same empathy or support for your position. It seems > > > you are starting to look like a man standing alone on a hilltop defending > > > his patch of land to an ever-increasing number of those unsympathetic to > > > your 'cause'. > > > > > > I am not saying that what you have to say is less valid than it was three > > > months ago it is just that if you test the wind direction and the > > > barometer it is telling you your audience here is not quite as receptive > > > to your message as it once was. This is, of course, only my opinion. I > > > respect your need to voice how you feel and admire your courage to do > > > just that but I think I have gotten the message now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: "doctordumbass@" <doctordumbass@> > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > > Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 8:35 PM > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] TM Critics on FFL - the blind "leading" the > > > > sighted > > > > > > > > > > > > Â > > > > Just such a strange thing, that the fiercest critics of TM on here, are > > > > those with no recent experience of the technique. Sure, they had their > > > > heyday - a few decades ago. > > > > > > > > Now, looking back hazily on those times, they stand up as those to be > > > > believed, the DEFINITIVE VOICES regarding the technique, its founder, > > > > and any other pearls that spew forth. Its just so much tripe. > > > > > > > > Being ordinarily skeptical, doubting stuff I am told, is second nature > > > > to me - an excellent survival tool, imo. So I can appreciate airing > > > > doubts about...anything. However, how long does it take to integrate > > > > something THAT YOU NO LONGER PRACTICE into your life? Why the public > > > > fixation on something that no longer has value to you? > > > > > > > > Are you warning us? (how condescending) > > > > > > > > Are you saving us? (how laughable) > > > > > > > > Are you opening our eyes? (see above) > > > > > > > > Why are you *devoting* your time and thought, to something you no > > > > longer do? > > > > > > > > Color me Puzzled. > > > > > > > > > >
